Vain wasn't (vain) as in the emotion. I think Shackles is 2 creations like Vain that the Ur-Viles have made for their Wurd. Something that we don't have enough information on as to what they are? SRD use of words taken out of their normal use isn't a new thing.

I always thought that Manacles was a creation like Vain?

The way the Elohim talk they are there to stop anybody from screwing up..right? They will stop anyone from changing time to mess with the Arch as explained by the Theomach and Roger. Why didn't they stop Linden from bringing TC back and Waking the Worm? If the Worm is truly awake and the end is near...

Okay, so what does everyone think he means by 'oh Linden, what have you done?


I think it could be something as simple as letting despite into her heart and everyone can see it except her.

Remember time is not the same in the Land. Those minutes in the 'real' world turn into days in the Land! As in 10 years is equal to 3500 or so in the Land

I posted this question to SRD in the GI so thought I would throw it out to the group also.
The Harrow knows all about the Demondim, but how does he know? He cannot travel through time so how did he study them?

Not to sure who I think is the Fatal Revenant? It could be more like Fatal Revenant's :? I mean in this book everyone we know of from the 'real' world is dead. TC for sure, Jerimiah...Linden...and Roger. The only one who is brought back to life in the Land is TC at the end. I think the Book is the b...

Hmmm...Not to sure about the TC to Foul thing yet?
Maybe it's a LA to Foul thing?

Just know that SRD will twist it into something we will all enjoy

Of course something that just clicked to me. Could the Mahdoubt be a creation of the Urviles? Might she be the new Vain?

Great post Wayfriend!!

I agree with Malik that SRD did not write it in the text the way that Malik wanted it to be written or the way that he is asking it to be written. What SRD did was give just enough for us to understand and even agree with Lindens desire to get the Staff. I asked that Question to SRD in the GI and go...

Maybe Linden's darkness will be like the Venom in TC?

If she uses the Staff after this darkness takes effect then Law would be based on the new darkened Staff!

There is a new trailer at the SRD web site!!!
Way cool!!!

It could have been Kevin's fault in a round about way though! Kevin could have set it into motion with the Ritual. The ROD could have caused the release of the Appointed to the North, or weakened the appointed's binding to where he would break free. Then with the Skurj he is now attacking the earthp...

High Lord Tolkien wrote Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:26 pm Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nice fanboy rant. Don't come to a discussion group and cry "there can be no discussion Fanboy? What is there to discuss. That is the way SRD wr...

What you want? So it's all about me :lol: This is all one story no matter what you want or think. If we know than we have to assume Linden knows. I think it is the mark of a great writer that SRD does not have to tell us something as simple as Linden cares for the Land. She proved that last time. Sh...

Okay, page 121. In the Rubble. Such evil such as ceasures and Kevins Dirt should not exist in the presence of the Staff of Law. Linden Knows from her time in The Land that these should not be. The Staff of Law would not permit them. Once she finds that the Staff is Lost, she knows what she must do, ...

Given the UK spoiler. Does anyone think Linden will become someone we have read about in the Lands past.
Like maybe Bereks Queen?

Roger was holding jeremiah's hand. That could be the reason he was transported to the Land. i.e. no blood involved for his transport.