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by paulcoz
Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:45 am
Forum: Coercri
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 1739
Views: 143506

by paulcoz
Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:07 am
Forum: Coercri
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 1739
Views: 143506

I say, power to the people!

Live free or die.
by paulcoz
Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:08 am
Forum: Coercri
Topic: Animal Cruelty *Disturbing Images*
Replies: 62
Views: 12736

TheFallen, You have made several claims (false equivalency / non-rational / appeal to emotion) about my words, but you haven't stated how these descriptors are applicable to any specific sentences or sentiments of mine. It's easy to make blanket statements. Could you cite some examples and your reas...
by paulcoz
Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:53 am
Forum: Coercri
Topic: Animal Cruelty *Disturbing Images*
Replies: 62
Views: 12736

... it apparently starts from the premise that animals should enjoy the exact same rights as human beings, with no stated or logical basis for such belief Did you even read the thread? :roll: See the exchange I had with Hashi about the right to vote and get married. The right to an abortion. I did ...
by paulcoz
Wed Oct 08, 2014 5:36 am
Forum: Coercri
Topic: Animal Cruelty *Disturbing Images*
Replies: 62
Views: 12736

(Bashevis) Singer was comparing only harmful behaviour and the justifications for it. He didn't say that all humans are literally National Socialists. :roll: The ONLY reason I brought up his 'nazi' comment is that people have made arguments in this thread invoking supremacy. I know this is a bitter ...
by paulcoz
Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:25 pm
Forum: Coercri
Topic: Animal Cruelty *Disturbing Images*
Replies: 62
Views: 12736

No, he is not entitled to compare other people to Nazis regardless of who he
was or what he had to endure.
Not even when those people defend systematised violence on an industrial scale with claims of supremacy?
by paulcoz
Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:20 am
Forum: Coercri
Topic: Animal Cruelty *Disturbing Images*
Replies: 62
Views: 12736

*sigh* So he (not you, the person you quoted) thinks we are all Nazis now? Look! A wild ad hom appears! It uses Godwin! It isn't very effective." Isaac Bashevis Singer was Jewish and a vegetarian. From en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Bashevis_Singer : In 1935, four years before the German invasion...
by paulcoz
Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:28 am
Forum: Coercri
Topic: Animal Cruelty *Disturbing Images*
Replies: 62
Views: 12736

Sorry, couldn't resist:
Men already have the right to receive an abortion. The fact that they may not need to due to physical inability to be carrying a fetus is irrelevant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R79yYo2aOZs
by paulcoz
Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:54 am
Forum: Coercri
Topic: Animal Cruelty *Disturbing Images*
Replies: 62
Views: 12736

Isaac Bashevis Singer: Human beings see oppression vividly when they're the victims. Otherwise they victimize blindly and without a thought. As often as Herman had witnessed the slaughter of animals and fish, he always had the same thought: in their behaviour towards creatures, all men were Nazis. T...
by paulcoz
Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:40 pm
Forum: Coercri
Topic: Animal Cruelty *Disturbing Images*
Replies: 62
Views: 12736

People will severe, irreparable brain damage are still human being and are still a step above animals with fully-functioning brains and all their sensory organs intact. I don't think the discussion is going to progress beyond this point. Peter Singer notes that if it would be wrong to take advantag...
by paulcoz
Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:56 pm
Forum: Coercri
Topic: Animal Cruelty *Disturbing Images*
Replies: 62
Views: 12736

Michael Pollan is an author and journalist, not a scientist. With regards to 'plant neurobiology' (not that I dismiss it entirely): From www.sciencedirect.com (TRENDS in Plant Science): scholar.google.com.au/scholar_url?hl=en&q=www.bashanfoundation.org/blumwald/blumwaldbrain.pdf&sa=X&sci...
by paulcoz
Thu Oct 02, 2014 5:35 pm
Forum: Coercri
Topic: Animal Cruelty *Disturbing Images*
Replies: 62
Views: 12736

We do know that they interact with their environment.
Interacting is not the same thing as experiencing. Reactions between chemicals that cause observable effects do not betray intent.
by paulcoz
Thu Oct 02, 2014 5:25 pm
Forum: Coercri
Topic: Animal Cruelty *Disturbing Images*
Replies: 62
Views: 12736

How do you prove that we are ethically better than plants and more deserving of life? Should we also not eat plants? Should we not exist as a species because we decided that its unethical to kill other organisms? Plants are incapable of having a subjective mental life. They do not have the physical...
by paulcoz
Thu Oct 02, 2014 12:30 pm
Forum: Coercri
Topic: Animal Cruelty *Disturbing Images*
Replies: 62
Views: 12736

I know you believe that humans are and will always be superior to animals, but you cannot in definitive terms explain WHY, by citing an ethically relevant feature that non-human animals lack, which is not also lacking in some human animals. Isn't sticking to a belief in the absence of reason the ind...
by paulcoz
Wed Oct 01, 2014 4:25 pm
Forum: Coercri
Topic: Animal Cruelty *Disturbing Images*
Replies: 62
Views: 12736

Should animals receive the benefit of other human rights? Shouldn't they have the right to vote and get married to whomever they please? No, of course not because things we call "human rights" are the things which most rational people would classify as "the minimum standards of behav...
by paulcoz
Tue Sep 30, 2014 4:43 pm
Forum: Coercri
Topic: Animal Cruelty *Disturbing Images*
Replies: 62
Views: 12736

Hashi, I'm not expecting any kind of agreement between us on this issue. My ethics are guided by the consistent application of principles to those who can intelligibly be regarded as individuals: those who have a subjective EXPERIENTIAL life which can fare better or worse for them. Those who can con...
by paulcoz
Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:24 am
Forum: Coercri
Topic: Animal Cruelty *Disturbing Images*
Replies: 62
Views: 12736

"paulcoz - do assign an animal the same significance as a human?" sgt.null, I believe in treating like cases alike. I am against prejudice and inconsistently applied arguments. I simply observed that someone's stated reason for giving less consideration to the welfare of animals, logicall...
by paulcoz
Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:42 pm
Forum: Coercri
Topic: Animal Cruelty *Disturbing Images*
Replies: 62
Views: 12736

We don't have a moral obligation to give animals a cruelty-free life ... but only someone who is insane would willingly mistreat an animal even if the animal is destined for the dinner table. Why don't we have a moral obligation to give non-human animals a cruelty-free life? Do we have a moral obli...
by paulcoz
Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:05 pm
Forum: The Close
Topic: Natural Rights
Replies: 93
Views: 24374

A friend sent me these links: en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Golden_Bough/Sympathetic_Magic en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Golden_Bough/Magic_and_Religion It's interesting to read about the beliefs and habits of past generations. To our more modern sense of reasoning, they seem quite nonsensical and unscien...
by paulcoz
Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:02 pm
Forum: The Close
Topic: Natural Rights
Replies: 93
Views: 24374

The point isn't that we should respect and tolerate different, even opposing, morals of other individuals and cultures. The point is that there are different, even opposing, morals between individuals and cultures. Hi Fist. :D Isn't saying that different individuals and cultures have different mora...

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