I voted in between. Personally, I wouldn't get it because I like having shirts that can be understood, if vaguely, by people in general. But hey, it's a damn memorable phrase, so why not?

I see I've returned after some time and the debate has already blown over somewhat; still I'll post my opinions. I'm actually only quoting avatar since it's mainly where I feel my response is best thrown in, for the most part. I think you're making a correlation between "avoidable" and &qu...

How do we know that long term, CO2 isn't dissipated in through the ice, leaving the ppm CO2 content in the trapped air less than it was at the time the ice formed? I'm not saying that the results are wrong, but I'm skeptical anytime a scientist says they know something for sure, Esp. with the loade...

I like the idea that ( i think Drew suggested ) that the Land became real when TC decided it was worth fighting for. At first I liked it, but now I'm not so sure. Hile Troy was Covenant's "polar opposite" in that he wanted to fight to save the land according to Donaldson. Moreover he is, ...

Ok for clarification,the island sank due to the worm of the earth SETTLING back in after being roused,and nope SRD didn't say how Kevin got there to begin with.I would imagine the Elohim had something to do with that they were out and about at that point in history.......... I think it was Berek wh...

I don't think that he is saying all environmentalists or eco-scientists are scheming. Science is a grant driven industry, the people who are working on the "popular" projects get the money first. Alternative energy sources are hot right now, like they were in the late 70's after the gas c...

Scientists Shmientists. Clearly a genius like Michael Crichton, qualified as an MD and famous science fiction writer, knows more than they do about the environment (Crichton has given speeches saying global warming isn't happening which AFAIK have mostly been debunked rather thoroughly). Oh how I d...

Don't do it, Sarge!! EZBoard was the spawn of Satan. Popup ads galore! Plus every time I moved the mouse, there was some weird thing that followed the pointer. I think it might have been another ad -- but really, the experience was so dreadful that I've blocked out most of it. Vain came along event...

This is exactly the kind of evidence that makes me see climate-change scepticism as madness. But these (alleged) Wolff and Smith characters are only scientists. What would a scientist know about the issue? :roll: ;) Kyoto was scrapped (not mentioning any names here) because "It might affect th...

I thought the US armed Iraq against Iran? (And is now trying to disarm them.) Major typo!!!! I meant Iraq of course. Oh, by the way, Reagan armed Iran too didn't he? I'ts funny, even when I make typos I'm right 8) And that adds what to the conversation? Doesn't add Cail. It's meant to take away som...

maybe we could? rebuild deserts? we have money and tech... Well that did kinda happen. I mean, a fair amount of Israel's deserty stuff has been transformed over the years. But, IIRC that was a huge effort on the part of the Zionist movement to plant trees and stuff, it's actually still going on tod...

Hmm...interesting posts. Nationalism does ertainly play on religious elements. However, it replaces god with the state, and the afterlife with a better life now , which is probably why it becomes popular. ;) I wouldn't put him together with the latter 3 because the mongol empire wasn't totally ruin...

Argh! :? But the Masters serve Despite without even knowing it. Does no one see how terrible that is? The Clave, or at least those members of the Clave with any real power and authority, knew what they were doing. The Masters however believe that they are serving the Land in what they are doing but...

First off, totally right on the timespan of rulership issue, old lords definitely around for more than I was thinking. QED Mhoram is the first and only Lord to rise above Kevin in terms of ability, We have no indication that Mhoram rose above Kevin in terms of ability. Kevin did not fight a Giant-Ra...

Woodstock occured well before SRD published TC. i am not entirely sure how long the watch has been around, but i think that at the most it has only been around since 2000 or so. Right, after 1969 the next post was in 2002. Although it seems this isn't the original Kevin's Watch, I doubt the orignal...

I was trying to figure out what the earliest posts where, so I looked into kevins-watch's post history. Notably it makes it clear that this is a second version of KW, so the "original" post wouldn't be here in the first place. And I noticed that the first few posts are in...1969? The best ...

even an implied rape will garner an R. remember in America you can kill scores of people and it is ok, but any mention of sex will get you in trouble. hello sgt.Mhoram btw. :) Well implied sex is actually done without notice. North by Northwest was made when censoring movies under Breen was the coo...

However it does enlighten us to the motivation of the Elohim, their very existence depends upon the Arch; that's a pretty powerful reason for them to fight tooth and nail to keep it intact. Did anyone have a theory where the Elohim were coniving to destroy the Earth? That would need to be tossed aw...

While I recognize that in the Land's history there was a lot of nepotism in its governance (and control of the original Staff) at least Berek Heartthew had set up some form of stable government that passed the test of millennia (and the Desolation that followed). I hate to cause a little quibble, b...

:LOLS: It's not the flag though, it's the deeper issue. The Kurds have always wanted independance. They wanted it from the British, they wanted it from Hussein (and every Iraqi government before him IIRC), and now they want it from the current government. I'm pretty sure that their real concerted e...