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by rusmeister
Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:23 pm
Forum: The Close
Topic: Atheist Children
Replies: 135
Views: 13377

I'm reading GKC's "The New Jerusalem", which describes his visit, circa 1935, to that city, and he describes, among other things, how those three great faiths live together without that pluralistic philosophy. A good deal of diplomacy is called for, but there is little bigotry , for being...
by rusmeister
Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:04 pm
Forum: The Close
Topic: Atheist Children
Replies: 135
Views: 13377

This post may veer slightly off the current topic. I know you like to use the argument that the majority of Christianity these days is very far removed from the original faith and the teachings in the bible; I agree with you on that point, and indeed, I agree that Orthodox Christianity is most like...
by rusmeister
Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:26 pm
Forum: The Close
Topic: Souls are infinite?
Replies: 64
Views: 9317

The only way we could know the truth about souls is to accept an authority higher than us that we find reliable, truth-telling.

Having rejected authority that could tell us, we are left to speculate wildly with no hope of knowing. You can hope that the ignorance won't prove to be fatal...
by rusmeister
Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:40 am
Forum: Coercri
Topic: Tired of the two party system
Replies: 28
Views: 3155

For people genuinely interested in the party system:

www.archive.org/details/partysystem00bellrich

www.amazon.com/Party-System-Hilaire-Bel ... 1932528113

The man was an MP from 1906-1910, and he is talking about US.
by rusmeister
Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:03 am
Forum: The Close
Topic: Atheist Children
Replies: 135
Views: 13377

I'm reading GKC's "The New Jerusalem", which describes his visit, circa 1935, to that city, and he describes, among other things, how those three great faiths live together without that pluralistic philosophy. How'd that work out? It's a big answer, Syl. I'd be fine with splitting the thr...
by rusmeister
Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:54 pm
Forum: The Close
Topic: Atheist Children
Replies: 135
Views: 13377

Hi Syl, That's a good example of a reasonable pluralist viewpoint. Only trouble is, the pluralist does not grok the viewpoint of the non-pluralist. The *point*, which you obviously missed, rus, is that Syl is quoting The Rules Of This Forum -- which you violate pretty much every time you post. I'm ...
by rusmeister
Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:46 am
Forum: The Close
Topic: This I believe.........
Replies: 93
Views: 23174

Years ago, watching my mother gaze longingly at the paintings she had done before she “gave up art” to raise a family, I learned that denying one’s creative impulses can lead to sadness and depression. This is also something useful to remember in times like these when the lessons of the past threat...
by rusmeister
Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:36 pm
Forum: Coercri
Topic: Why do republicans hate women?
Replies: 178
Views: 15683

lucimay wrote:ya know gund (rigel) i love ya to pieces but what were you thinking making an hyperbole thread in the hyperbole tank??? yeesh! :thumbsdown:

republicans don't hate women anymore than democrats or libertarians or independants or whatever hate women.
Hurray! Common sense still exists!!! :)
by rusmeister
Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:35 pm
Forum: Coercri
Topic: Why do republicans hate women?
Replies: 178
Views: 15683

We're natural. Therefore anything we do is natural. Everything, existing in nature, can only do things which are possible. Only the impossible is unnatural. Or vice versa... --A The whole "natural" craze reminds me of the "chemical free" mantra that some people like to spout. TH...
by rusmeister
Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:02 am
Forum: The Close
Topic: Christina
Replies: 22
Views: 3826

May God bless you, Lorin. There are things that we do that I believe are salvific - that they do something in the direction of our salvation regardless of how else we are in our lives, and fulfilling the law of Christ is definitely one of them. Not that those of us who understand the dangers really ...
by rusmeister
Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:50 am
Forum: The Close
Topic: Atheist Children
Replies: 135
Views: 13377

Z, I'm done arguing. I am thoroughly weary of talking to people who never really hear what I say. But if you had titled this thread "My Experiences with My Children", then you would have a better basis for complaining. (This is the problem of just wanting to hear from people who will appr...
by rusmeister
Sat Jul 16, 2011 3:52 am
Forum: The Close
Topic: Atheist Children
Replies: 135
Views: 13377

You don't deal with it any better than I do. :lol: How many times have you said, "I won't respond to this. ... Except to say this..." And how many times have you said you were done arguing with me, then gone another 10 rounds? But I would stop with you, if you understood the argument. It'...
by rusmeister
Sat Jul 16, 2011 3:46 am
Forum: The Close
Topic: Atheist Children
Replies: 135
Views: 13377

My dear Orlion, what can you do when someone reduces all intelligent discussion to "You believe in fairy tales"? There is only so much you can say to such people. As long as they know next-to-nothing of the long history of my faith, in detail, there is nothing I can say to them. If they b...
by rusmeister
Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:42 am
Forum: The Close
Topic: Atheist Children
Replies: 135
Views: 13377

He knows , because if we had , we would agree with him. It is not possible to come to different conclusions than he has if we seriously think about it. Fist, I deal every day with lots of people telling me I'm wrong. I deal with it. Why can't you? In any fairly large and talkative community such as...
by rusmeister
Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:39 am
Forum: The Close
Topic: Atheist Children
Replies: 135
Views: 13377

I really believe most people haven't. And that assumption is the downfall of every discussion we have with you. *shrug* How do you know I haven't? You don't know. You believe it, but you don't know. Therefore you could be wrong, right? --A Not every thought is aimed specifically at you, Av. If the ...
by rusmeister
Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:40 am
Forum: The Close
Topic: Atheist Children
Replies: 135
Views: 13377

Yeah. In the end, I, too, will shake the dust off my feet and logout forever. But there is good here - there are people who are not only intelligent - the least valuable quality - but worthy of dialog. That is the hope I hold out, supported when sometimes Ali or Murrin or somebody says a human word...
by rusmeister
Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:29 am
Forum: The Close
Topic: Atheist Children
Replies: 135
Views: 13377

(No response to my earlier post? You can take it to a more relevant thread if you prefer, or if you feel you have already addressed it, please point me in that direction.) Murrin, my apologies - the best posts tend to get back-burnered. Maybe later today (if I wind up home alone, I'll have the time...
by rusmeister
Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:27 am
Forum: Coercri
Topic: Why do republicans hate women?
Replies: 178
Views: 15683

People didn't buy that social approval of easy divorce leads to social tolerance of open adultery, open adultery leads to social tolerance of widespread promiscuity, and widespread promiscuity leads to social tolerance of homosexuality, so I'm not at all surprised that you don't buy such progressio...
by rusmeister
Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:14 am
Forum: Coercri
Topic: Why do republicans hate women?
Replies: 178
Views: 15683

In short, there is universal agreement in said historical record with my general position that pretty much all societies everywhere have always seen it as something unnatural, and attempts to paint things otherwise now are NOT based on genuine scholarship, but wishful thinking. (this might include ...
by rusmeister
Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:11 am
Forum: Coercri
Topic: Why do republicans hate women?
Replies: 178
Views: 15683

Sigh, again with the "Natural"/"Unnatural" thing. It's not natural for humans to live in houses made from chopped down trees. it's not natural for us to create medicines to cure cancers... That's what I was saying, Sindatur. The 15 definitions. So I guess we agree on something, ...

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