The Mueller Investigation

Post by **Hashi Lebwohl** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:57 pm

I am waiting for the Democrats to turn on Mueller for not giving them the smoking gun they wanted.

Post by **Ur Dead** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:48 am

One minor note in the report that hint that there was a possible minor
infraction for collusion and Mueller didn't think it was worth wild, then will the
roaches come out of the woodwork and want to drawn and quarter him.

Post by **Gaius Octavius** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:24 am

They're already starting to turn on him. Pundits like Stephen Colbert and Trevor Noah (not even an American...what a loser) are talking about how disappointed they are that the Mueller investigation yielded naught against Donald Trump. They say that they are "sure" that Trump did something wrong. "Hey we all saw it happening on TV! He colluded on TV! He obstructioneeedddddd!"

On social media, leftists are having melt downs over it, saying it is like the election all over again.

Rachael Madcow will of course find a way to spin this to keep her viewership. CNN denies deceiving the American public by stating "We never TOLD you that it was collusion!" and the like. The media is really disgusting, you know.

Post by **Ur Dead** » Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:10 am

Stephen Colbert is not a pundit. He's not even a good comedian. He is an actor trying to portray a pundit.

Rachael and her bovine sense is nothing more than a bunch of bull..

Trevor Noah is affluence as "Uygur the Orge" Both be out of work two bit
actors if some rich guy didn't need a tax write off.

Post by **Hashi Lebwohl** » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:22 pm

Colbert hasn't been funny since he left The Daily Show. Anyway, no one cares about those *entertainers*--they aren't journalists--except their dedicated fans, and their dedicated fans have already made up their minds regardless of the facts of the case.

House Democrats are likely going to subpoena the full report this week, then declassify it and release it to the general public. That isn't going to change anything, of course--Trump still got exonerated (if he isn't being charged with anything then that qualifies as de facto exoneration) and no new charges are coming as a result of the Investigation. By the end of this month, the Mueller Investigation won't be a live news story any more.

Post by **aliantha** » Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:16 pm

Colbert's hilarious. So is Trevor Noah.

The difference between those guys and, say, Hannity and Alex Jones is that Hannity and Jones want you to think they're journalists. They're not. They make stuff up. Just like Colbert and Trevor Noah do.

(Hi, everybody! What'd I miss?

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Post by **Hashi Lebwohl** » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:51 pm

Hannity is a pundit or talking head, which is not the same thing as a journalist. Alex Jones is an Internet personality/entertainer whose schtick is oddball conspiracy theories.

The only difference between Alex Jones and Colbert/Noah is that Jones is right-wing entertainer and the other two are left-wing entertainers.

Post by **Ur Dead** » Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:01 pm

I wish all four of them shut the hell up for about 30 years...
I've heard less clucking on a chicken farm.

Post by **sgt.null** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:15 am

Ur - don't watch their shows.
I don't get on Twitter because
It looks like a wasteland . Not
Being there, I a m guessing I
Made the right choice.

Post by **Skyweir** » Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:02 am

Post by **Ur Dead** » Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:53 am

I don't watch any of them...
Really never followed somebody who wants to think for me..

Post by **Gaius Octavius** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:10 pm

An investigation of the origins of the Russia hoax has commenced, apparently, with Pres. Trump labeling the originators as traitors operating a failed coup attempt.

Rumor has it that former Pres. Obama, with the assistance of homeboy Jussie Smollett, as well as the Clintons are destroying hard drives and voice recorders. Rumor also has it that Jussie Smollett stubbed his toe and is blaming it as a racist attack against him from white people wearing black face while wearing white face and ski masks with MAGA hats, saying "I can't prove it, but you can't not prove it either."

Post by **Skyweir** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:30 pm

That sounds like pure fantasy .. quite a wild sounding conspiracy theory.

Post by **Hashi Lebwohl** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:40 pm

Yes, I would ignore all that. It *is* true that AG Barr is wanting to look into the reasons why the Mueller Investigation was started in the first place, especially since the single most compelling piece of evidence which led up to it, the Steele dossier, has since been debunked. He will probably also look into those two FBI agents, Strzok and Page, who talked about "getting" Trump.

Post by **Skyweir** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:09 am

Fair call.

Post by **Gaius Octavius** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:01 pm

Hashi Lebwohl wrote:Yes, I would ignore all that. It *is* true that AG Barr is wanting to look into the reasons why the Mueller Investigation was started in the first place, especially since the single most compelling piece of evidence which led up to it, the Steele dossier, has since been debunked. He will probably also look into those two FBI agents, Strzok and Page, who talked about "getting" Trump.

I wasn't sure if this was attended to be addressed towards my comments or Donald Trump's tweets, but I would agree that maybe his words of 'coup' and 'treason' are a little over the top. However, is it really so hard to believe that the Obama administration wiretapped Trump Tower and spied on the Trump campaign? Is it really so hard to believe that the Clintons financed the Steele dossier and started the whole Mueller investigation nonsense? How is that a mere 'conspiracy theory?' It's totally possible and is most likely what happened.

Also looks like Julian Assange is about to get Seth Riched.

Post by **Skyweir** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:35 am

Well possibilities arent probabilities

The facts rests with the evidence AND the context.

Id be interested in seeing the evidence and understanding the context ... for that matter Id also be happier seeing the full report of the Investigation. Maybe one day huh?

Until we have it all ... its just speculation and best guessing. And best guesses arent held to the same standard of evidence .. so theres that

I still think theres more here than meets the very limited release of data and intel.

I note that another person has been charged re the Investigation

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/10/us/p ... -case.html

WASHINGTON - Lawyers for Gregory B. Craig, a White House counsel in the Obama administration, expect him to be indicted in the coming days on charges related to his work for the Russia-aligned government of Ukraine.

The case against Mr. Craig, 74, stemmed from an investigation initiated by the office of the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III.

Post by **Hashi Lebwohl** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:31 am

ur-Nanothnir wrote:I wasn't sure if this was attended to be addressed towards my comments or Donald Trump's tweets, but I would agree that maybe his words of 'coup' and 'treason' are a little over the top. However, is it really so hard to believe that the Obama administration wiretapped Trump Tower and spied on the Trump campaign? Is it really so hard to believe that the Clintons financed the Steele dossier and started the whole Mueller investigation nonsense? How is that a mere 'conspiracy theory?' It's totally possible and is most likely what happened.

I doubt the Obama Administration concerned itself with the Trump Campaign at all; however, the Clinton Campaign was extremely interested in the opposotion, which is why the now-we-know-it's-fake Steele dossier came into existence.

Post by **Gaius Octavius** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:40 am

Hashi Lebwohl wrote:
ur-Nanothnir wrote:I wasn't sure if this was attended to be addressed towards my comments or Donald Trump's tweets, but I would agree that maybe his words of 'coup' and 'treason' are a little over the top. However, is it really so hard to believe that the Obama administration wiretapped Trump Tower and spied on the Trump campaign? Is it really so hard to believe that the Clintons financed the Steele dossier and started the whole Mueller investigation nonsense? How is that a mere 'conspiracy theory?' It's totally possible and is most likely what happened.
I doubt the Obama Administration concerned itself with the Trump Campaign at all; however, the Clinton Campaign was extremely interested in the opposotion, which is why the now-we-know-it's-fake Steele dossier came into existence.

Actually, I disagree with you on the point about the Obama administration having no concern about the Trump campaign at all. Of course they would. Clinton's presidential run was every bit about her as it was about Obama. She would essentially continue his legacy and his policies. He would also have motivation for it as revenge for the Birther movement and Donald Trump's role in it. It's very obvious the two really, really don't like each other. Also, we do know that the FBI conducted 'spying' (AG Barr's words) related to the Trump campaign; at least the FBI claims that it was investigating Russian infiltration/interference with the Trump campaign. Given the FBI's recent track record and the whole Steele dossier and Mueller investigation to begin with, they have very little credibility. Very little. Russia has more credibility than them at this point.

Fact of the matter, the FBI did 'spying' of some sort. AG Barr implied that it may have been unlawful spying on the Trump campaign by the Obama administration through the FBI. James Comey (who has little credibility) and James Clapper (another Swamp Rat with little credibility and a whole career built around lying and clandestine operations) swears it was for the Russians and to prevent them influencing the Trump campaign. Pres. Trump swears it was the latter. He came out very early on and said that he was given information that the FBI wiretapped his phones in the Trump Tower.

Obviously, someone here is full of shit. Given recent events, I would have to say it is everyone connected to the Obama administration that is full of shit. They pulled something akin to Watergate and went further to try to unseat a legitimately elected president.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/11/us/p ... pying.html

Post by **Skyweir** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:43 am

Big badda BS boom. Sounds like BS, smells like BS, looks like BS.

The broader the conspiracy theory the narrower its legitimacy.

If anyone has an established reputation for lying its Trump.

https://www.politifact.com/personalitie ... ing/false/

Lies till Jan 2019 only

Since taking office, Trump has made 7,645 'false or misleading claims'. In October he said 1,200 things that were false or misleading, according to Fact Checker database

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.the ... ctcheckers

Ok so what Trump has to say inspires zero confidence. But lets look at the FACTS and see if we cant sort our way through it.

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