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Calculating Easter

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Pope tells patriarch Catholics are ready for a common Easter date
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Pope Francis shakes hands with Catholicos Awa III, patriarch of the Assyrian Church of the East, at the end of a meeting Nov. 19, 2022, in the library of the Apostolic Palace at the Vatican. (CNS photo/Vatican Media)


Vatican City — Meeting the U.S.-born patriarch of the Assyrian Church of the East, Pope Francis expressed his hope that Christians of the East and West could finally agree on a common date for celebrating Easter.

"Let us have the courage to put an end to this division that at times makes us laugh" with the ridiculous possibility that Christians could ask each other, "When does your Christ rise again?" the pope told Catholicos Awa III, the patriarch of the Assyrian Church of the East.

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The Assyrian Church of the East, which is not in full communion with any of the Orthodox or Oriental Orthodox churches, began a theological dialogue with the Vatican in the mid-1990s.

During their meeting, Awa mentioned his hope and the hope of many other Christians to find a way to celebrate Easter on the same day.

Francis thanked him and said, "I want to say — indeed, to repeat — what St. Paul VI said in his day: We are ready to accept any proposal that is made together."

In 2025, the pope noted, Christians will celebrate the 1,700th anniversary of the Council of Nicaea, and the Gregorian and Julian calendars will align that year so that Christians of the East and West will celebrate Easter on the same day.

Christian leaders should "be courageous and search together" for a solution that will bring a common celebration of Easter every year, the pope said. "I'm willing, yet not me, the Catholic Church is willing to follow what St. Paul VI said. Agree and we will go where you say."

Francis was referring to an appendix to the Second Vatican Council's 1963 Constitution on the Sacred Liturgy, promulgated by Pope Paul. The declaration "on revision of the calendar" said council members "would not object if the feast of Easter were assigned to a particular Sunday of the Gregorian calendar, provided that those whom it may concern, especially the brethren who are not in communion with the Apostolic See, give their assent."

Since that time, the Vatican's position consistently has been that if Eastern Christians agree on a way to determine a common date for Easter, the Catholic Church would accept it.

Before the Council of Nicaea, different Christian communities celebrated Easter on different dates; the council decided that for the unity of the Christian community and its witness, Easter would be celebrated on the first Sunday after the first full moon after the spring equinox.

But the Julian calendar, which is what Christians used in the fourth century, was increasingly out of sync with the actual solar year, so March 21 — generally assumed to be the date of the Northern Hemisphere's spring equinox — gradually "drifted" away from the actual equinox.

In 1582, Pope Gregory XIII, relying on the work of the best astronomers of his time, reformed the calendar, dropping 10 days and making the equinox fall on March 21 again. Most Eastern Christians did not adopt the new calendar, leading to a situation where Easter occasionally is on the same day, but Eastern Christians' celebration can be as much as four weeks later.


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Fist and Faith wrote:I had no idea.
No idea about pretty much the whole shebang or only about selected bits?


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My understanding is that the eastern churches aren’t quite so top down and that many of them have disagreements among themselves.
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Wosbald wrote:+JMJ+
Fist and Faith wrote:I had no idea.
No idea about pretty much the whole shebang or only about selected bits?


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I didn't know different people did Easter on different days.
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Damelon wrote:My understanding is that the eastern churches aren’t quite so top down and that many of them have disagreements among themselves.
FWIW, there are many Eastern Churches in union w/ Rome (aka "Uniat" Churches). In fact, for almost every Orthodox Church, there exists its mirror-universe Eastern Catholic doppelgänger. The Latin (or Roman) Church, though the largest per the numbers, is only 1 among 23 other "particular churches" in the Catholic constellation.


List of churches sui iuris [Wikipedia]
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Fist and Faith wrote:I didn't know different people did Easter on different days.
Gotcha. Cool.

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