The Seven Words

Post by **Damelon** » Sun May 18, 2003 12:45 pm

Melenkurion abatha! Duroc minas mill khabaal! The several times in the Chronicles that the Lords use the seven words of power, they only say six. What is the seventh word?

Post by **I'm Murrin** » Sun May 18, 2003 1:29 pm

Hmm... I believe it was mentioned once by Foul or a raver that they knew too little of the Seven Words, or the correct way to use them... I don't believe it was actually Seven Words as such - perhaps seven phrases? The Unfettered One in LFB tells us the most:

Melenkurion abatha! Binas mill banas Nimoram khabaal! Melenkurion abatha! Abatha Nimoram!

Atiaran said 'He knew more of the Seven words than my ears have ever heard.'

I always thought it was good how after ten years Covenant wasn't able to suddenly remember every word (like he would if writen by an author of lesser skill) - he gets it wrong when he shouts at the Lurker.

Post by **Fist and Faith** » Sun May 18, 2003 4:25 pm

There's a thread about this somewhere that had some really great ideas about it all. IIRC, good thoughts about the words SRD based the 7 on, and ideas of what exactly was meant by "7".

I find it odd that Mhoram learned so much when samadhi touched him, even a whole song for the Forestals, but didn't learn the 7 Words.

Post by **Lord Mhoram** » Sun May 18, 2003 6:46 pm

If I were samadhi, I'd keep it safeguarded in my mind. Keeping in my mind I'm a Raver of course.

Post by **Fist and Faith** » Sun May 18, 2003 7:10 pm

I wouldn't have thought that samadhi expected Mhoram to be as strong as he was, and actually able to benefit from their contact, so I wouldn't have expected him to have been safeguarding any knowledge. More like he expected what I assume always happened when he touched a human; terror, panic, and possession.

Post by **Damelon** » Mon May 19, 2003 3:40 am

I agree FnF, samadhi found out a little late that he got more than he bargained for with Mhoram.

Post by **Skyweir** » Mon May 19, 2003 3:45 am

yes right you're clearly all over the 6 words of power thing .. that get represented as 7!

what about Amok .. was he a bearer of one of the words of power .. the missing one perhaps??

its been a while since I read .. so just trying to remember?

Post by **Fist and Faith** » Mon May 19, 2003 3:51 am

Amok was the 7th Ward. He never mentioned anything about the 7 Words.

Post by **Skyweir** » Mon May 19, 2003 3:55 am

yes he was the 7th WARD .. but wasnt there a 'word' that he held also .. that unlocked the 7th ward??

i maybe a tad unclear 'bout it .. but i remember a 'word' in there too

Post by **Fist and Faith** » Mon May 19, 2003 4:09 am

I don't remember anything like that. A quick look in TIW just now didn't find anything.

Post by **Skyweir** » Mon May 19, 2003 4:30 am

dont you remember .. something about a word .. or somthing .. and Bannor was asked what it was??

am I confusing this with something else .. that the Haruchai were privy to but retained in secret .. was it not a word .. but something else??

I am thinking it was a word .. mmm ... i will need to think on it a bit more .. who knows maybe even pick up the book and give it a gander

Post by **Ryzel** » Mon May 19, 2003 3:07 pm

I always assumed that they did not actually know all the seven words of power, and that the last ones were hidden in some of the wards that they had not found yet.

Post by **Nav** » Mon May 19, 2003 5:24 pm

I don't think Amok was the seventh ward, more like the sort of guardian of it. Covenant had to name the seventh ward before Amok would allow him access to it. It was called the Power of Command.

Post by **Lord Mhoram** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:49 pm

I agree Ryzel. I think that the seventh word is locked in another ward.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon May 19, 2003 9:35 pm

Navarino wrote:I don't think Amok was the seventh ward, more like the sort of guardian of it. Covenant had to name the seventh ward before Amok would allow him access to it. It was called the Power of Command.

Amok refered to himself as the seventh ward, but the actual seventh ward was the blood of Melenkurion Skyweir, which contained the Power of Command. Amok would not lead them to the seventh ward until Bannor told Elena and Covenant the name of the ward: "Power of Command"

Post by **Fist and Faith** » Tue May 20, 2003 12:48 am

Thank you Guest. (Infelice?) That sums up what Sky is thinking of. Amok wouldn't lead you there until "Power of Command" was uttered. And as far as we heard, only Bannor spoke the words. Amok didn't seem to require anyone in particular to say it.

I also agree with Ryzel. Surely Kevin put the Words in the Wards. (heh)

Post by **Infelice** » Tue May 20, 2003 1:19 am

Nope, that wasn't me this time F&F. But it sure sounded like something that I would say

Post by **Skyweir** » Tue May 20, 2003 3:28 am

ahh yes that was it!!

perfect and many thanks 'guest' ..

words in the wards are the wurd .. heh lol

very witty Fist

Post by **danlo** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 11:58 pm

Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:57 am

Here's what I think. Amok was the seveth ward. The Blood was the Power of Command. The seven words have a power all there own. The seven words can hurt a raver but not command anything.

Kevin's Watch

Kevin's Watch

The Seven Words

The Seven Words

GSG