A comment was made by Drew in another thread mentioning that Berek may have returned to his Queen after the battle which culminated in Berek swearing service to the Earthpower.
The thing is, we know that Berek never married his Queen and we never found out what happened to the Queen after the War.
So did they ever have a relationship? Who was Damelon's mother? For that matter who were the mothers of the other Old Lords?
What about Berek's Queen?
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Well, Berek being an archetypal heroic figure (albeit less so than the King and Queen), it wouldn't surprise me if he had platonically loved the Queen from afar but, considering himself not worthy of her hand, had settled with another woman whom he may have loved in a different, but not lesser, way.
As for the mothers of the other Old Lords, I'm afraid that the fame and power of the Old Lords from Berek's line would have been more than enough to shadow them completely, even had they been Lords in their own right. After all, we don't know the name of ANY Old Lord save for those descended from Berek (which makes me wonder whether Berek's line was so simply laid out, or if Damelon, Loric and/or Kevin had brothers and sisters, who maybe never became/chose to become Lords, or who could have been Lords, but overshadowed by the brother who wielded the Staff of Law and Berek's heritage).
On a related note, who knows whether Kevin had children in his one thousand years of reign? Given that High Lordship was passed from father to son in the time of the Old Lords, I find it difficult to imagine Kevin would have done it any differently; perhaps he was still "young" enough that he had not thought about marrying? Or maybe the reason he had no children was one of the causes of his despair ("I'm lost, there will be no High Lord of Berek's line after me, so nobody will be able to destroy Foul, therefore I only have one chance to do so and if I fail, the Land will be his for the taking").
As for the mothers of the other Old Lords, I'm afraid that the fame and power of the Old Lords from Berek's line would have been more than enough to shadow them completely, even had they been Lords in their own right. After all, we don't know the name of ANY Old Lord save for those descended from Berek (which makes me wonder whether Berek's line was so simply laid out, or if Damelon, Loric and/or Kevin had brothers and sisters, who maybe never became/chose to become Lords, or who could have been Lords, but overshadowed by the brother who wielded the Staff of Law and Berek's heritage).
On a related note, who knows whether Kevin had children in his one thousand years of reign? Given that High Lordship was passed from father to son in the time of the Old Lords, I find it difficult to imagine Kevin would have done it any differently; perhaps he was still "young" enough that he had not thought about marrying? Or maybe the reason he had no children was one of the causes of his despair ("I'm lost, there will be no High Lord of Berek's line after me, so nobody will be able to destroy Foul, therefore I only have one chance to do so and if I fail, the Land will be his for the taking").
Where is it said that Berek never married his Queen? I cannot recall.
There are obviously a lot of possibilities, as Xar has already pointed out. Another is that Berek's Queen was significantly older than him. If the Queen got the title because someone had died, she might have been in her forties at the start of her career if there hadn't been anything too unusual. The implication is that she ruled for many years. Who knows how old she was when the civil war broke out? The only limiting factor here seems to be that the Raver controlling the King probably wouldn't have settled with a body that was getting too decrepit, although what the limits are I cannot claim to know.
There are obviously a lot of possibilities, as Xar has already pointed out. Another is that Berek's Queen was significantly older than him. If the Queen got the title because someone had died, she might have been in her forties at the start of her career if there hadn't been anything too unusual. The implication is that she ruled for many years. Who knows how old she was when the civil war broke out? The only limiting factor here seems to be that the Raver controlling the King probably wouldn't have settled with a body that was getting too decrepit, although what the limits are I cannot claim to know.
It is possible that Covenant learned that Berek never married the Queen during Atiaran's song in Mithil Stonedown, when she sang the legend of Berek Halfhand; the way Covenant described it to Lena ("Berek never married his Queen either") is one of the reasons that made me come up with the theory described before - that although he loved the Queen from afar, he thought himself unworthy of her and married another woman he loved deeply enough but in a different way.
Of course, it could also simply be that during the last battle, in which Berek lost half his hand, the Queen was also slain, and that Berek was quite literally the last man standing - so, he never married his Queen because by the time the war was over and peace was restored, all he could do for her was bury her.
Of course, it could also simply be that during the last battle, in which Berek lost half his hand, the Queen was also slain, and that Berek was quite literally the last man standing - so, he never married his Queen because by the time the war was over and peace was restored, all he could do for her was bury her.
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Maybe the weren't actually kids.
Maybe Damelonwas just the heir to Bereks Highlordship, but you study undersomeone for long enough..you're bound to look at them as parents.
I know that Foul says that Kevin is Bereks GReat Grandson; but if the Old high Lords lived for Centuries, they'd all be about the same age (within 100years of eachother) unless they didn't go looking for a mate until much later in their lives.
Maybe Damelonwas just the heir to Bereks Highlordship, but you study undersomeone for long enough..you're bound to look at them as parents.
I know that Foul says that Kevin is Bereks GReat Grandson; but if the Old high Lords lived for Centuries, they'd all be about the same age (within 100years of eachother) unless they didn't go looking for a mate until much later in their lives.
I thought you were a ripe grape
a cabernet sauvignon
a bottle in the cellar
the kind you keep for a really long time
a cabernet sauvignon
a bottle in the cellar
the kind you keep for a really long time