I really need to sit down and watch the episodes on DVD, 'cause it's beginning to feel very disjointed.
Then again, I'm a bit bitter that they pooped on Cain from the original series. Lloyd Bridges will always be Cain to me, with the goofy suede uniform and the swagger stick.
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Yeah, he was great. But, come on, this was intense!!! As with many other characters and the plots, they didn't just dish the same thing out again. I wonder if we'll see an entirely new Red Eye! 
Still, as I said earlier, it would have been great to see a moment like they had in the original series when Baltar was watching the Galactica being destroyed, telling the centurion not to bother him, and the centurion says, "But sir, I really think you should take a look at the other battlestar."
Still, as I said earlier, it would have been great to see a moment like they had in the original series when Baltar was watching the Galactica being destroyed, telling the centurion not to bother him, and the centurion says, "But sir, I really think you should take a look at the other battlestar."
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Well that's the difference Fist. The old series really tried hard to appeal to the family audience like Star Wars did, the new series makes no such concessions.
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Finally hooked up with this thread after making a stray post on the General SciFi board. Oops. 
The Pegasus can easily be resolved, though - look at what happened in the original series.
Funny, but the plot intricacy of the new series reminds me of what SRD is doing with the Last Chronicles. He said that there are lots of plots and subplots - just like in the Gap novels. The trouble (that I see) is that the Last Chronicles aren't written in the same way - switching POV as needed to get into each character's head. So it doesn't seem quite right. The cylons in BG are the same. I think it's a LOT more complicated than them trying to kill us. There's at least a dozen different agendas going on here - killing, saving, breeding, harmony, etc. Each model seems to have something different on their minds. I mean, come on ...
Many, many layers here. And some of it looks a little hokey at the moment, but I'm sure it will make a lot more sense as the series progresses.
So, here are my questions and guesses...
But I, as well as others in this thread, just don't get Apolo's problem. Probably had something to do with that blonde woman he supposedly broke up with on Caprica just before the attack (but we don't learn anything about until the next episode). Sure wish they blended her in earlier - would have made more sense. Or maybe we're all just missing the point. *shrugs* It's still a lot less hard on the brain than everyone conveniently sticking to the deck plating instead of floating around the bridge. Heh heh.
Back to the idea of the original series. LOVE that they brought Richard Hatch into the new one - it's a great gap closer. If you get the DVDs for the first season (or maybe it's for the mini series?) there's a "behind the scenes" thing on there. Lots of great stuff, but the funniest part is the meeting of Starbuck (then) with Starbuck (now) at Starbuck's (coffee house).
If you've noticed, they have been redoing a lot of the original plots - just with various twists. Gun on Ice Planet Zero (I think that was the name) was about prisoners being "volunteered" to go down to a Hoth-like planet to take out a big gun that was threatening the fleet. Keep the ice, keep the prisoners, but remove the gun - and it's good as new! They found Kobol in the original series, as they did in this one - and it did point the way to Earth. Pegasus (nuff said). Now we need a pleasure planet, and a planet with some kind of god stranded on it. Just please ... please! ... don't ever let them reach Earth! Don't know if I can take those flying motorcycles again. Although Boxey (who was one of the main characters in "BG 1980") is very much played down in this series. He does show up in a lot of cut scenes if you have the DVDs. (and there's a cut scene of Helo and Starbuck on their way to her apartment, which was probably cut because you can see traffic going by in the background - oops!) And I'm pretty sure that he's the son of the guy on the space station that is killed first thing in the mini series - at least he looks a bit like the kid in the picture (that was on his desk), and he did mention that they didn't hear from his father and he was presumed dead.
The other original episode that clicks in my memory is the one (or several) where they find the humans that were on their way to a colony. The one with the nazi-type bad guys, and the one good guy who could have been Richard Hatch's twin (I think he was in the tv series, "Emergency"). Don't know if anyone remembers the silver android servants on the planet? The main one was played by Ray Bolger - the scarecrow in The Wizard of Oz (among other things, but I'm not THAT old to remember any of them).
And I'll close the thread with the cartoon I posted in the other thread...
The other thread is here, but don't post any replies there. I didn't even notice there was a TV thread until took me by the ear and led me to it.
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Had to watch it a second time before I realized his change of heart - it seemed a little random at first. But I think it came from his talk with Boomer. She referenced the speech he gave at the decommissioning ceremony - wondering if humanity deserved to survive.Syl wrote:"I've been thinking about what we talked about before. It's not enough to survive. One has to be worthy of surviving."
The Pegasus can easily be resolved, though - look at what happened in the original series.
Funny, but the plot intricacy of the new series reminds me of what SRD is doing with the Last Chronicles. He said that there are lots of plots and subplots - just like in the Gap novels. The trouble (that I see) is that the Last Chronicles aren't written in the same way - switching POV as needed to get into each character's head. So it doesn't seem quite right. The cylons in BG are the same. I think it's a LOT more complicated than them trying to kill us. There's at least a dozen different agendas going on here - killing, saving, breeding, harmony, etc. Each model seems to have something different on their minds. I mean, come on ...
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... if Sharron had six bombs, she could have done a lot worse than take out the water supply. And if the mechanized cylons knew how to take out the whole ship and turn its guns on the rest of the fleet, couldn't one of the sleeper agents like Sharron been directed to do this? It's because there are different agendas involved ... and they are not simply different ways to the same goal ... and not all of them are pro-cylon or anti-human.
So, here are my questions and guesses...
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In the pilot, Number 6 met with someone just after Baltar left her in the town square. But you can't see who it is - not before or after, and not even in any reflections. It will be interesting to see who that is - I'm sure they have something special planned for that.
Baltar - human or cylon? My guess is that the Baltar on Caprica was human, but the one the escaped to the Galactica was a cylon. He didn't start seeing his phantom 6 until he was on the raptor leaving the planet. The one episode confirmed that there wasn't any microchip implant, and at the same time that he wasn't crazy since he wouldn't have the kind of info he had just because he was bonkers. He's a toaster and he just doesn't know it yet. Maybe it was the same kind of subliminal programming that awakened Sharron. Maybe instead of seeing a Number 6 phantom, she saw an ...
... Anders model. Yes - I think he has cylon written all over him. They've been after Starbuck the whole time - and he reeled her in. If you think the last episode (Scar) had her shaken up, wait until she finds out that her only reason for living is a toaster. After someone sews up her wrists, she'll owe Helo a pretty big apology.
Baltar - human or cylon? My guess is that the Baltar on Caprica was human, but the one the escaped to the Galactica was a cylon. He didn't start seeing his phantom 6 until he was on the raptor leaving the planet. The one episode confirmed that there wasn't any microchip implant, and at the same time that he wasn't crazy since he wouldn't have the kind of info he had just because he was bonkers. He's a toaster and he just doesn't know it yet. Maybe it was the same kind of subliminal programming that awakened Sharron. Maybe instead of seeing a Number 6 phantom, she saw an ...
... Anders model. Yes - I think he has cylon written all over him. They've been after Starbuck the whole time - and he reeled her in. If you think the last episode (Scar) had her shaken up, wait until she finds out that her only reason for living is a toaster. After someone sews up her wrists, she'll owe Helo a pretty big apology.
Back to the idea of the original series. LOVE that they brought Richard Hatch into the new one - it's a great gap closer. If you get the DVDs for the first season (or maybe it's for the mini series?) there's a "behind the scenes" thing on there. Lots of great stuff, but the funniest part is the meeting of Starbuck (then) with Starbuck (now) at Starbuck's (coffee house).
If you've noticed, they have been redoing a lot of the original plots - just with various twists. Gun on Ice Planet Zero (I think that was the name) was about prisoners being "volunteered" to go down to a Hoth-like planet to take out a big gun that was threatening the fleet. Keep the ice, keep the prisoners, but remove the gun - and it's good as new! They found Kobol in the original series, as they did in this one - and it did point the way to Earth. Pegasus (nuff said). Now we need a pleasure planet, and a planet with some kind of god stranded on it. Just please ... please! ... don't ever let them reach Earth! Don't know if I can take those flying motorcycles again. Although Boxey (who was one of the main characters in "BG 1980") is very much played down in this series. He does show up in a lot of cut scenes if you have the DVDs. (and there's a cut scene of Helo and Starbuck on their way to her apartment, which was probably cut because you can see traffic going by in the background - oops!) And I'm pretty sure that he's the son of the guy on the space station that is killed first thing in the mini series - at least he looks a bit like the kid in the picture (that was on his desk), and he did mention that they didn't hear from his father and he was presumed dead.
The other original episode that clicks in my memory is the one (or several) where they find the humans that were on their way to a colony. The one with the nazi-type bad guys, and the one good guy who could have been Richard Hatch's twin (I think he was in the tv series, "Emergency"). Don't know if anyone remembers the silver android servants on the planet? The main one was played by Ray Bolger - the scarecrow in The Wizard of Oz (among other things, but I'm not THAT old to remember any of them).
And I'll close the thread with the cartoon I posted in the other thread...
The other thread is here, but don't post any replies there. I didn't even notice there was a TV thread until took me by the ear and led me to it.
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What do you mean? I don't know what specific thing you're talking about. Did I miss something at the very end??
All in all, I thought it was great. And yeah, Starbuck's in huge trouble. She's sure not the asset to the fleet she used to be. What are they going to do with her? I wonder if she's going to die.
Gotta see that!
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All in all, I thought it was great. And yeah, Starbuck's in huge trouble. She's sure not the asset to the fleet she used to be. What are they going to do with her? I wonder if she's going to die.
The preview of next week's episode could easily lead to that kind of thing.Romeo wrote:The Pegasus can easily be resolved, though - look at what happened in the original series.
I hope you're right about all the plans within plans. I hope they make sense of it all. I hope the writers have an overall plan they're following, rather than just thinking, "Hey, you know what would really be bad? Let's do an episode where..." Maybe Sharon did have six, but her internal struggle kept her from doing as much as she could have. (Until the last episode of Season 1, that is.)Romeo wrote:Many, many layers here. And some of it looks a little hokey at the moment, but I'm sure it will make a lot more sense as the series progresses.
Yeah, that's always an interesting point.Romeo wrote:It's still a lot less hard on the brain than everyone conveniently sticking to the deck plating instead of floating around the bridge. Heh heh.
Romeo wrote:the funniest part is the meeting of Starbuck (then) with Starbuck (now) at Starbuck's (coffee house).
Gotta see that!Mother of God, don't even think it!!!Romeo wrote:Just please ... please! ... don't ever let them reach Earth! Don't know if I can take those flying motorcycles again.
Yeah, Baltar went off with them when he escaped the brig. The BEST part of that was the No (Noh?) Men. Three nasty, extremely efficient killers. Quite Haruchai-like, actually. (Although I think the Haruchai would kick their asses.) They were first seen when Fred Astaire was pretending to be Starbuck's father, but was just trying to get protection from these guys, who were on a Blood Hunt for him. Apollo said something to the leader of the three, and the leader had to stop one of his men from killing Apollo. "But he insulted you?" "If he had insulted me, he would be dead."Romeo wrote:The other original episode that clicks in my memory is the one (or several) where they find the humans that were on their way to a colony. The one with the nazi-type bad guys,
A C3PO knock-off. Creepy little android!Romeo wrote:Don't know if anyone remembers the silver android servants on the planet? The main one was played by Ray Bolger - the scarecrow in The Wizard of Oz (among other things, but I'm not THAT old to remember any of them).
And that's a great Dilbert!!!
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BIG spoiler here - so don't read it unless you've seen the whole series up to date...
And, yeah - Starbuck's cruising down hill pretty badly. I can't imagine anything that could stabilize her.
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I just plain can't believer that they killed Billy! I loved that character! And he was developing pretty nicely as time went on (even more so if you watch the deleted scenes on the DVDs). I wasn't one bit surprised that he was shot - but when I saw that blank stare on his face when Dee ran over to him, the whole world seemed to twist around under me. I know they killed off lots of other people who we thought would be around forever, but if they do this to Billy then who's next - Callie?!
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Heh. Baltar's just fun to look at. Oh, and Apollo. Funfunfun...
Madam President scares me though. Don't know why. Maybe it's because she reminds me a bit of the Wraith. (SciFi Friday! The reason why I don't go to the Moose Lodge anymore.) Kinda like the Keeper, only with a better haircut.
Starbuck's on the Esmer-wagon, aka, needin' drugs. 
Madam President scares me though. Don't know why. Maybe it's because she reminds me a bit of the Wraith. (SciFi Friday! The reason why I don't go to the Moose Lodge anymore.) Kinda like the Keeper, only with a better haircut.
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I wasn't sure if you meant something that happened RIGHT at the end. Yeah, that was sort of a shock, eh?Romeo wrote:Spoiler
I just plain can't believer that they killed Billy! I loved that character! And he was developing pretty nicely as time went on (even more so if you watch the deleted scenes on the DVDs). I wasn't one bit surprised that he was shot - but when I saw that blank stare on his face when Dee ran over to him, the whole world seemed to twist around under me. I know they killed off lots of other people who we thought would be around forever, but if they do this to Billy then who's next - Callie?!
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Guess I should avoid this thread til next year or so. I didn't know what the frack you guys were going on about here until I realized you were already watching the 3rd season...I'm still just barely into Season 2 on the Space Channel here.
Oh well, the damage is done. I've read the posts. So the Pegasus returns, eh? Cool.
While I'm here...does anyone else think it's a little silly and redundant for the show to sometimes advertise special "2-part" episodes? What's the point in calling them that when all the episodes are connected into a huge story arc anyway? Might as well call the entire season a "22-part" episode or whatever. Just silly.
Oh well, the damage is done. I've read the posts. So the Pegasus returns, eh? Cool.
While I'm here...does anyone else think it's a little silly and redundant for the show to sometimes advertise special "2-part" episodes? What's the point in calling them that when all the episodes are connected into a huge story arc anyway? Might as well call the entire season a "22-part" episode or whatever. Just silly.
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Heh. Well, the Pegasus' return shouldn't come as a surprise, since they seem to be re-doing a lot of what happened in the original series. I guess we saw Red Eye a couple episodes, too. But what happens with the Pegasus is certainly different, and we should try not to write about that kind of thing without spoilers.
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It IS just like one big season-long (or longer) episode. I was just emailing Ali that you don't get a lot of closure from each episode, even if it seems to be an episode with a definate "end."
There are only two seasons so far. They just broke the second season in half. So the cliffhanger that seems to be at the end of season 2 (episode 210) is really just a mid-season point. The ones they're showing now are still considered part of season 2 - episodes 211, 212, etc. So you're not as far behind as you think.
The one thing I do like is that they don't play the "someone is going to die this week" advertising ploy. Many many other series do that, and it's a pain in the butt. But they don't do that with BG - seems like anyone is open to being whacked, and they're not going to tell you when it's coming. It ain't Star Trek - you can never tell who's wearing the red shirt from week to week.
There are only two seasons so far. They just broke the second season in half. So the cliffhanger that seems to be at the end of season 2 (episode 210) is really just a mid-season point. The ones they're showing now are still considered part of season 2 - episodes 211, 212, etc. So you're not as far behind as you think.
The one thing I do like is that they don't play the "someone is going to die this week" advertising ploy. Many many other series do that, and it's a pain in the butt. But they don't do that with BG - seems like anyone is open to being whacked, and they're not going to tell you when it's coming. It ain't Star Trek - you can never tell who's wearing the red shirt from week to week.
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I'm losing interest in this series.
Character developement stories bore me.
There were plenty of surprises but it felt like I was watching a NYPD-type TV show.
I need more of the Cylon's PLAN, damn-it!
What happened to Earth?
Have they mentioned it since Kobol?
Next weeks preview looks intersting though:
Oh, and have I already mentioned that I think Baltar is the Imperious Leader?
The whole Scar story just plain sucked, imo.
There are 12 models of Cylons.
Fighters are one of them, we suppose.
All Sharons share the experiences of the other Sharons.
So all Fighters should as well.
But this one, Scar, is different than all the other fighters?....please.
I felt like the writers of this episode was writing for the original series!
Character developement stories bore me.
There were plenty of surprises but it felt like I was watching a NYPD-type TV show.
I need more of the Cylon's PLAN, damn-it!
What happened to Earth?
Have they mentioned it since Kobol?
Next weeks preview looks intersting though:
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Poor Apollo! He finally gets his act together, gets a promotion too! , and looks like he's actually in some type of command position of the Pegasus only to have it jump away!! Sucker just can't catch a break!! LOL!
The whole Scar story just plain sucked, imo.
There are 12 models of Cylons.
Fighters are one of them, we suppose.
All Sharons share the experiences of the other Sharons.
So all Fighters should as well.
But this one, Scar, is different than all the other fighters?....please.
I felt like the writers of this episode was writing for the original series!
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Who supposes? We were told how many models there were way back in the beginning. (I wouldn't have remember that the number was 12. Nice job.High Lord Tolkien wrote:There are 12 models of Cylons.
Fighters are one of them, we suppose.
) But did we actually see the 12? We sure didn't know Sharon was one of them for a while. Maybe Scar is one of them, but not all fighters. And I don't think we should rule out that she was lying to Baltar anyway.
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I don't think she was lying, but perhaps a 13th was added after she told him of the 12. That is, Baltar himself is cloned as a cylon after the attack. The human one is left on Caprica, and the cylon one ends up on Galactica. And I wouldn't be surprised at all if he ended up to be the Imperious Leader. But ... at the end of the mini series, when we find out that Sharron is a cylon, she says something to the others and one of the number 6 models replies, "by your command." (last words of the mini series?) I don't think they threw that in for no reason.
And I'm sure there are several differnt Cylon plots. Just watched the mini series again. Number 6 confesses that infiltrating the command center was the job she was given, but she had other motives of her own.
Known cylons:
Ellen Tigh - cylon, or just a big pain in the arse? Like Apolo said, "if she's *not* a cylon, we're all in trouble." Heh heh.
Anders. I think he's going to turn out to be a cylon. That would devastate Starbuck, and I don't think the writers would miss an opportunity to do that.
Baltar. I'd put money on him being a cylon, but I don't know whether he's one of the "12 models" or not.
Cylon Flying Wings ... I'm pretty sure that they don't count againt the 12. They seem to come off of the base stars like bees from a hive - like they're tucked away in there like the clones on the resurrection ship. So I'd guess that all of those fighters can resurrect - and maybe even the base stars themselves (they looked pretty bio-mechanical on the inside during the episode where they landed in one to drop the nuke).
Centurions are just mechanical. No bio stuff, so they can't resurrect. They keep saying stuff like, "all this has happened before, and it will all happen again." Well, I think this is going to bite the cylons in the butt. Humanity's children came home to kill them, and I'd bet the cylon's children will do the same (the clones being the children of the mechanicals, and the upcoming hybrid being their children).
But if they have only 12 "silver bullets," I'm sure they'll use them sparingly.
Oh - and I wonder if there is a corrolation between the 12 cylon models and the 12 colonies (Earth being the 13th, and perhaps we'll see a 13th model). We should do a map of the home colonies of each of the known cylon agents - if there is no overlap, perhaps there is once model per colony. But hey - why else would there be 12? 16 is more of a computer-friendly number.
And I'm sure there are several differnt Cylon plots. Just watched the mini series again. Number 6 confesses that infiltrating the command center was the job she was given, but she had other motives of her own.
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1. Sharron
2. Number 6
3. Doctor from "The Farm"
4. Theoban (spelling?) (guy that was on Ragnar when they got there)
5. Darro (PR guy that was left on Ragnar)
6. Woman who did the documentary
2. Number 6
3. Doctor from "The Farm"
4. Theoban (spelling?) (guy that was on Ragnar when they got there)
5. Darro (PR guy that was left on Ragnar)
6. Woman who did the documentary
Anders. I think he's going to turn out to be a cylon. That would devastate Starbuck, and I don't think the writers would miss an opportunity to do that.
Baltar. I'd put money on him being a cylon, but I don't know whether he's one of the "12 models" or not.
Cylon Flying Wings ... I'm pretty sure that they don't count againt the 12. They seem to come off of the base stars like bees from a hive - like they're tucked away in there like the clones on the resurrection ship. So I'd guess that all of those fighters can resurrect - and maybe even the base stars themselves (they looked pretty bio-mechanical on the inside during the episode where they landed in one to drop the nuke).
Centurions are just mechanical. No bio stuff, so they can't resurrect. They keep saying stuff like, "all this has happened before, and it will all happen again." Well, I think this is going to bite the cylons in the butt. Humanity's children came home to kill them, and I'd bet the cylon's children will do the same (the clones being the children of the mechanicals, and the upcoming hybrid being their children).
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Billy. God, I hope not - but I'm still reeling from his death. I wouldn't say this about any of the others that died so far (and there have been a lot of them), but I wouldn't be surprised if they bring back Billy as a cylon. It just didn't seem like it was his time. And just like Anders and Starbuck, I don't think they'd miss the opportunity to send the President into convultions when she finds out that the one person who was as close as family to her was really a cylon.
Oh - and I wonder if there is a corrolation between the 12 cylon models and the 12 colonies (Earth being the 13th, and perhaps we'll see a 13th model). We should do a map of the home colonies of each of the known cylon agents - if there is no overlap, perhaps there is once model per colony. But hey - why else would there be 12? 16 is more of a computer-friendly number.
And then the ravens pecked out his eyes.
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Well... The Captain's Hand didn't do much for me.*sigh*
And I watched Selena today. lol
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It seemed like nothing more than a way to get Apollo the Pegasus. I hate seeing one Battlestar so surprised by no less than three Base Stars, get hit by multiple nukes, then jump away with relatively little damage or losses.
And don't the Vipers go out to keep the Raiders from doing terrible damage close range? First of all, how can there conceivable be enough Vipers with that many Base Stars pumping out Raiders? Second, what are the Raiders doing when the Vipers are all going full-throttle for the landing bays? Shouldn't they do an outrageous amount of damage since they have free shots at whatever they want?
The Pegasus commander was an idiot, and his ending was entirely too obvious.
And don't the Vipers go out to keep the Raiders from doing terrible damage close range? First of all, how can there conceivable be enough Vipers with that many Base Stars pumping out Raiders? Second, what are the Raiders doing when the Vipers are all going full-throttle for the landing bays? Shouldn't they do an outrageous amount of damage since they have free shots at whatever they want?
The Pegasus commander was an idiot, and his ending was entirely too obvious.
And I watched Selena today. lol
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Still a man hears what he wants to hear
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Still a man hears what he wants to hear
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man...i havent had cable since late August, so ive missed everything from atlantis, sg-1, and Galactica...i am in withdrawal...my only hope is that they release the current seasons, or the most recent, on dvd soon...they released the first season of Galactica in the first half of the second season, so thats what ive been hoping for...
Think on that, and be dismayed
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Give him back something broken
What do you do to a man who has lost everything?
Give him back something broken
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It looks like both guesses are wrong. What an episode last night!!Romeo wrote:Spoiler
Baltar - human or cylon? My guess is that the Baltar on Caprica was human, but the one the escaped to the Galactica was a cylon. He didn't start seeing his phantom 6 until he was on the raptor leaving the planet. The one episode confirmed that there wasn't any microchip implant, and at the same time that he wasn't crazy since he wouldn't have the kind of info he had just because he was bonkers. He's a toaster and he just doesn't know it yet. Maybe it was the same kind of subliminal programming that awakened Sharron. Maybe instead of seeing a Number 6 phantom, she saw an ...
... Anders model. Yes - I think he has cylon written all over him. They've been after Starbuck the whole time - and he reeled her in. If you think the last episode (Scar) had her shaken up, wait until she finds out that her only reason for living is a toaster. After someone sews up her wrists, she'll owe Helo a pretty big apology.
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Seeing that Baltar haunts #6 as much as she haunts him is incredible!!! That was SO cool, him being so confident and all!! It would seem to prove that she isn't any kind of mental projection into his head, but an hallucination instead. Something odd between them, to be sure, for that to have happened for both of them. I was never sure she wasn't an hallucination, but if she wasn't, I figured he was just some kind of wimp, or crazy, or something. But her being the same way isn't as likely as the thought that they had some kind of connection that we can't explain. Cylon physiology is difficult to explain, eh? Maybe they imprinted on each other in some weird way.
All lies and jest
Still a man hears what he wants to hear
And disregards the rest -Paul Simon
Still a man hears what he wants to hear
And disregards the rest -Paul Simon