Use of colorful metaphors in Runes

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Use of colorful metaphors in Runes

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I've just started reading this book. Linden has just arrived in the Land and wonders what Foul has done with her son.

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Just a quick thought, and forgive me if this has already been discussed somewhere else-- does anyone else remember the characters in either the first or second chronicles using such "colorful metaphors" as they do at the beginning of Runes? I don't, but I'm not sure if that's because I'm a mother now (and wasn't when I read the others), so I'm more sensitive to that kind of thing, or if it's just a slight change in Donaldson's writing style.

Don't get me wrong: I don't mind; my favorite author (King) uses such words excessively. But I never noticed it before in SRD's stuff.

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Well, Runes spends more time in the 'Real World' then any other novel (except perhaps the Illearth War); SRD has said that the language that people use in Runes (mostly Lytton and LInden who do the cussin') just fit more in the story.
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There is definitely more profanity in modern SRD than in his earlier works. This has been discussed (and lamented) quite a bit, both in this forum and on the GI.
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I have also just begun Runes. I am very interested to find how SRD has grown. I don't mean style so much as ideas. 25+ years of life are bound to have influenced him. What has time done with his thoughts on human emotion and ideals? Has he worked out new answers for old problems? Refined or confirmed old answers?

As for style, I smiled to hear echoes of _Dune_ when Linden's mind, like Ledo's, kept returning to the huge fact that her son was in danger. A single, simple line of text that rings true to how we grapple with information that stuns us.
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I don't get hung up on this sort of thing. Maybe that's because I implicity trust whatever direction SRD takes his writing. I'm just enjoying the ride.
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dlbpharmd wrote:There is definitely more profanity in modern SRD than in his earlier works. This has been discussed (and lamented) quite a bit, both in this forum and on the GI.
So judging from the replies, it's not just me. Cool.

(Dumb question: What's the GI?)
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Hope wrote:As for style, I smiled to hear echoes of _Dune_ when Linden's mind, like Ledo's, kept returning to the huge fact that her son was in danger. A single, simple line of text that rings true to how we grapple with information that stuns us.
I didn't read "Dune", but that struck me, too, Hope, and how quickly it happened: Foul had her son. It's sort of what we all do when something traumatic happens: I've been robbed. Or, She's leaving. Or, I'm actually being sued for --- dollars. Only one of these has happened to me personally (thank God).
"War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing he cares about more than his personal safety; is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. "
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Matrixman wrote:I don't get hung up on this sort of thing. Maybe that's because I implicity trust whatever direction SRD takes his writing. I'm just enjoying the ride.
Oh, sure. I just found it... interesting, and then wondered if I was imagining things or not. Aside from Covenant's constant old exclamations of "Hellfire!" you really didn't see that much else.
"War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing he cares about more than his personal safety; is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. "
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(Dumb question: What's the GI?)
The Gradual Interview with SRD in which he answer fan questions over through his website.
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^Ah. Thanks.
"War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing he cares about more than his personal safety; is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. "
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Warmark wrote:
(Dumb question: What's the GI?)
The Gradual Interview with SRD in which he answer fan questions over through his website.
And all this time, I thought you guys were talking about your Gastrointestinal Tracts 8O
I thought you were a ripe grape
a cabernet sauvignon
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True story,

A friend of mine is a medical doctor and he was talking about my GI, and I kept thinking, "I have a Gradual Interview?" :)
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Didn't you ever play with a gastrointestinal tract Joe when you were little?
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Non...but I'd been known to give mamograms to my sister's Barbie's
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drew wrote:Non...but I'd been known to give mamograms to my sister's Barbie's
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