I was watching Classic VH1 over the weekend and saw Eddie Trunk ranting about TR&RHoF, and I was compelled to agree with him.
It's a joke.
Bob Marley, Etta James, Hank Williams, Stevie Wonder, Gladys Knight, The Jackson Five, Miles Davis, P-Funk, Mahalia Jackson, Earth, Wind, & Fire, Billie Holliday, Isaac Hayes, Michael Jackson, Buddy Guy....Good musicians, but they ain't rock 'n roll.
And yet, no Rush, Blue Oyster Cult, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, King Crimson, Van Halen, Rainbow, or Deep Purple.
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Issac Hayes clearly doesn't belong, but I'd argue the rest contributed alot to the Pantheon of R & R in very maningful ways.
Deep Purple gave us "the riff", BOC and JP are clear omissions...maybe Rush too... but as to the rest of your list, feh.
Van Halen especially was kind of liteweight in a creative sense. Eddies guitar style was gimmicky and none of 'em could write a song that was worth more than the vinyl it was printed on. Iron maiden...yawn.
*flees*
Deep Purple gave us "the riff", BOC and JP are clear omissions...maybe Rush too... but as to the rest of your list, feh.
Van Halen especially was kind of liteweight in a creative sense. Eddies guitar style was gimmicky and none of 'em could write a song that was worth more than the vinyl it was printed on. Iron maiden...yawn.
*flees*
"I use my gun whenever kindness fails"
I'm sorry, Miles Davis is a genius, but he damn sure isn't a rocker, and has no place in the Hall of Fame.
Van Halen may be lightweights, but they are the archtypical American hard-rock band. And if being a lightweight is a disqualifier, throw out The Police, The Lovin' Spoonfull, Fleetwood Mac, and The Mamas and the Papas.
You heathen bastard, how dare you dis Iron Maiden?!?
Van Halen may be lightweights, but they are the archtypical American hard-rock band. And if being a lightweight is a disqualifier, throw out The Police, The Lovin' Spoonfull, Fleetwood Mac, and The Mamas and the Papas.
You heathen bastard, how dare you dis Iron Maiden?!?
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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Badfinger was a one-hit wonder that really didn't do much for rock 'n roll. I'm OK with their omission.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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they were much more than a one hit wonder. check out the body of their work. from the Ivey's until Warner Bros. shut them down. Peter Ham was an amazing song writer. Molland a great straight ahead rocker. Evans a terrific counterpoint to Ham.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badfinger
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badfinger
Lenin, Marx
Marx, Lennon
Good Dog...
Marx, Lennon
Good Dog...
Sadly, though I like Badfinger, they were a one-hit wonder.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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if Cail says its so, it IS so. Cail man...you crack me up.
i'm going to start a Cail's Absolutes thread!!! just for YOU.
you're more advanced than a cockroach,
have you ever tried explaining yourself
to one of them?
~ alan bates, the mothman prophecies
i've had this with actors before, on the set,
where they get upset about the [size of my]
trailer, and i'm always like...take my trailer,
cause... i'm from Kentucky
and that's not what we brag about.
~ george clooney, inside the actor's studio
a straight edge for legends at
the fold - searching for our
lost cities of gold. burnt tar,
gravel pits. sixteen gears switch.
Haphazard Lucy strolls by.
~ dennis r wood ~
have you ever tried explaining yourself
to one of them?
~ alan bates, the mothman prophecies
i've had this with actors before, on the set,
where they get upset about the [size of my]
trailer, and i'm always like...take my trailer,
cause... i'm from Kentucky
and that's not what we brag about.
~ george clooney, inside the actor's studio
a straight edge for legends at
the fold - searching for our
lost cities of gold. burnt tar,
gravel pits. sixteen gears switch.
Haphazard Lucy strolls by.
~ dennis r wood ~
C'mon Luci, you can't seriously argue that Badfinger was a rock 'n roll machine. They were a decent band, but they're a footnote in music.
This is what kills me about TR&RHoF...It's supposed to be a hall of fame....That means not everyone gets in, just the cream of the crop. As much as I loathe KISS, it's insane that they're not in, ditto with The Cars, or the other bands I listed.
IOW, just because you've been around more than 25 years (Tom Petty) doesn't mean you get in.
This is what kills me about TR&RHoF...It's supposed to be a hall of fame....That means not everyone gets in, just the cream of the crop. As much as I loathe KISS, it's insane that they're not in, ditto with The Cars, or the other bands I listed.
IOW, just because you've been around more than 25 years (Tom Petty) doesn't mean you get in.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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Cameraman Jenn
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What about Judas Priest? I definitely think they belong there.
Now if I could just find a way to wear live bees as jewelry all the time.....
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Cail wrote:C'mon Luci, you can't seriously argue that Badfinger was a rock 'n roll machine. They were a decent band, but they're a footnote in music.
i'm not arguing ANYthing, dinkasaurus rex!!! i'm laughing at your absolutes! no dang ROOM to argue with you!
you're more advanced than a cockroach,
have you ever tried explaining yourself
to one of them?
~ alan bates, the mothman prophecies
i've had this with actors before, on the set,
where they get upset about the [size of my]
trailer, and i'm always like...take my trailer,
cause... i'm from Kentucky
and that's not what we brag about.
~ george clooney, inside the actor's studio
a straight edge for legends at
the fold - searching for our
lost cities of gold. burnt tar,
gravel pits. sixteen gears switch.
Haphazard Lucy strolls by.
~ dennis r wood ~
have you ever tried explaining yourself
to one of them?
~ alan bates, the mothman prophecies
i've had this with actors before, on the set,
where they get upset about the [size of my]
trailer, and i'm always like...take my trailer,
cause... i'm from Kentucky
and that's not what we brag about.
~ george clooney, inside the actor's studio
a straight edge for legends at
the fold - searching for our
lost cities of gold. burnt tar,
gravel pits. sixteen gears switch.
Haphazard Lucy strolls by.
~ dennis r wood ~
KISS, even though I think they suck, has sold a pile of albums, revolutionalized music merchandising, and influenced a pile of bands.
The Cars, in addition to having some great songs were pioneers in keyboard sequencing and were arguably the best-produced band of the '80s.
Yes Jenn, it's a crime that Judas Priest wasn't inducted the second they were eligible.
The Cars, in addition to having some great songs were pioneers in keyboard sequencing and were arguably the best-produced band of the '80s.
Yes Jenn, it's a crime that Judas Priest wasn't inducted the second they were eligible.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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Cameraman Jenn
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I own three Kiss lunchboxes as well as an Iron Maiden one.....
Now if I could just find a way to wear live bees as jewelry all the time.....
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Cameraman Jenn
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What about Pat Benatar? I think she should be let in. And before you have a fit Cail, she was a huge success in the eighties.
Now if I could just find a way to wear live bees as jewelry all the time.....
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Cameraman Jenn
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Ok....FINE....Sarge.....
How about Bad Company, or Steppenwolf, or Boston?
How about Bad Company, or Steppenwolf, or Boston?
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For the record, I love Pat Benatar, and want to get real sweaty with her.
Bad Company and Steppenwolf, absolutely.
Boston......I can't be objective about Boston, I really hate 'em.
Bad Company and Steppenwolf, absolutely.
Boston......I can't be objective about Boston, I really hate 'em.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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