Which is probably why I actually own it on video....You've got to admit though, it is possibly the most gleefully stupid movie ever made.
Darkest, strangest, weirdest movies you have ever seen.
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Now if I could just find a way to wear live bees as jewelry all the time.....
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There's no way I'd ever admit to watching it in the last 60 days....Nope, not me.
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I haven't either, really I haven't..... Spoiler
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Who was it that played Lucy (as in Lucy in the Sky)?Cameraman Jenn wrote:"Sargeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band", the one starring the Beegees and Peter Frampton with George Burns and Steve Martin and Alice Cooper and Aerosmith. OH, I think I was supposed to put that in worst movies ever....
*shudder*Sunbaneglasses wrote:Tommy is pretty damn strange.
...that bean scene....whenever I went through "madhouse," I relived that bean scene...
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Six String Samurai
Dead Man
Killing Zoe
Man Bites Dog
Pi
Ravenous
Requiem for a Dream
Waking Life
Vulgar
Dead Man
Killing Zoe
Man Bites Dog
Pi
Ravenous
Requiem for a Dream
Waking Life
Vulgar
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Keep an air-sickness bag at hand. You might need it. It's worse than any other movie I've ever seen. If you could combine "Clockwork Orange," "One Flew over the Cookoo's Nest," "Ichi the Killer," "The General's Daughter," and probably a snuff film, you might approach the disturbing that is Old Boy
Keep an air-sickness bag at hand. You might need it. It's worse than any other movie I've ever seen. If you could combine "Clockwork Orange," "One Flew over the Cookoo's Nest," "Ichi the Killer," "The General's Daughter," and probably a snuff film, you might approach the disturbing that is Old Boy
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exceedingly dark and brutally weird
also...
ps...Syl! you listed one of my all-time favorite movies!!
also...
ps...Syl! you listed one of my all-time favorite movies!!
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have you ever tried explaining yourself
to one of them?
~ alan bates, the mothman prophecies
i've had this with actors before, on the set,
where they get upset about the [size of my]
trailer, and i'm always like...take my trailer,
cause... i'm from Kentucky
and that's not what we brag about.
~ george clooney, inside the actor's studio
a straight edge for legends at
the fold - searching for our
lost cities of gold. burnt tar,
gravel pits. sixteen gears switch.
Haphazard Lucy strolls by.
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One of Danlo's, too, I believe. A big fan of the soundtrack, anyway.
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Darkest, strangest, weidest movies you have ever seen.
some good nominations; anything by David Lynch qualifies in my book, even the Straight Story, by virtue of it *not* being all that strange 
I first watched Eraserhead when my son (now 12) was a newborn; not recommended !
Blue Velvet is also very very dark ..
Is the Dark Backward the one where the guy has an extra arm growing outta his back ? pretty odd ...
Being John Malkovich is a good'un, I've enjoyed Charlie Kaufman's screenplays, Adaptation was probably the best imo ..
*love* Dead Man, and Jarmusch's 'Ghost Dog' would also be one of my faves - though I wouldnt neccessarily call either of those particularly weird or strange .. both have amazing soundtrack's, Neil Young did Dead Man, the RZA did Ghost Dog ..
and yes, Requiem for a Dream is bleakly dark (though again, I wouldn't call it 'weird')
.. Ichi the Killer is very strange indeed ..
hmm, what can I nominate ...
how about Peter Jackson's Muppets-on-crack effort 'Meet the Feebles' ?
Terry Gilliam's 'Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas' ? (he also did the brilliant 'Brazil', which already got a mention I see)
Rob Zombie's 'House of 1000 corpses' was pretty crazy ..
ooh, I know one that I found *really* strange (though arguably also crap) - 'Liquid Sky' - some arty b-grade film from New York, apparently it has a bit of a cult following, quite bizarre ..
'Repo Man' is also a weird one, but quite good ..
'the Butcher Boy' is disturbing too, adapted from an equally weird Irish novel (a book which featured virtually *no puncuation*, apart from full stops and capital letters)
'Delicatessen' definitely qualifies ..
I first watched Eraserhead when my son (now 12) was a newborn; not recommended !
Blue Velvet is also very very dark ..
Is the Dark Backward the one where the guy has an extra arm growing outta his back ? pretty odd ...
Being John Malkovich is a good'un, I've enjoyed Charlie Kaufman's screenplays, Adaptation was probably the best imo ..
*love* Dead Man, and Jarmusch's 'Ghost Dog' would also be one of my faves - though I wouldnt neccessarily call either of those particularly weird or strange .. both have amazing soundtrack's, Neil Young did Dead Man, the RZA did Ghost Dog ..
and yes, Requiem for a Dream is bleakly dark (though again, I wouldn't call it 'weird')
.. Ichi the Killer is very strange indeed ..
hmm, what can I nominate ...
how about Peter Jackson's Muppets-on-crack effort 'Meet the Feebles' ?
Terry Gilliam's 'Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas' ? (he also did the brilliant 'Brazil', which already got a mention I see)
Rob Zombie's 'House of 1000 corpses' was pretty crazy ..
ooh, I know one that I found *really* strange (though arguably also crap) - 'Liquid Sky' - some arty b-grade film from New York, apparently it has a bit of a cult following, quite bizarre ..
'Repo Man' is also a weird one, but quite good ..
'the Butcher Boy' is disturbing too, adapted from an equally weird Irish novel (a book which featured virtually *no puncuation*, apart from full stops and capital letters)
'Delicatessen' definitely qualifies ..
Re: Darkest, strangest, weidest movies you have ever seen.
Yes. Judd Nelson and Bill Paxton.SleeplessOne wrote:Is the Dark Backward the one where the guy has an extra arm growing outta his back ? pretty odd ...
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
_____________
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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I don't know if this would qualify as it's a documentary but I don't think you can get much more disturbing than "Titicut Follies". I saw it for an Abnormal Psych course in college (Univ. of Mass.). I'll let Roger Ebert describe it as he does a much better job than I.
When someone asks me "What's the best documentary you've ever seen?" I find myself in a quandary. The best documentary I've ever seen is Titicut Follies, but for the life of me I couldn't recommend it. That's because this stark portrayal of the "treatment" of the insane at a Massachusetts state asylum is terrifyingly, horribly disturbing. The documentary reflects the horror of its subject matter. Once seen, it is unforgettable. I find it difficult to take responsibility for exposing another person to this film. And that is probably the highest compliment I can pay it.
There is a scene where one inmate is being force fed that you won't soon forget. If anyone wants to inflict some emotional trauma on themselves I've heard the film can be found online on several file sharing websites. But be warned, you won't soon forget this. One of the posters on the IMDB forum had an excellent comment regarding the film:Frederick Wiseman's "Titicut Follies" was filmed in 1966 at the State Hospital for the Criminally Insane at Bridgewater, Mass. It was shown at the 1967 New York Film Festival, had two limited runs in New York and -- aside from a few screenings before film societies -- has had no other distribution. This is its first commercial booking outside New York.
It is not hard to understand why this is the case. "Titicut Follies" is one of the most despairing documentaries I have ever seen; more immediate than fiction because these people are real; more savage than satire because it seems to be neutral.
We are literally taken into a madhouse. Inmates of varying degrees of mental illness are treated with the same casual inhumanity. There is an old man named Jim who is constantly taunted by the guards, whose uniforms are disturbingly similar to a policeman's. While he is being shaved with fast, painful strokes by the barber, the guards needle him: "Why's your room so filthy, Jim? What's that you said, Jim?" They are bullies who have their victim pinned and helpless.
When Jim is returned to his room, It is an absolutely empty cell. And Jim is naked. It appears that the inmates are deprived of clothing much of the time because that is cheaper and makes security easier. It is not explained how naked confinement in a barren cell cures mental Illness and indeed this hospital seems to come from the Middle Ages.
Massachusetts legislators have tried for two years to suppress Wiseman's film. They say it invades the privacy of the inmates, and perhaps they have a point. It is hard to imagine more humiliating and pathetic scenes, and perhaps they should not be shown for profit or offered to the public.
But perhaps they should, even though "Titicut Follies" will dismay and disgust many of those who see it. Few of us have the slightest idea of conditions in the nation's mental prison-hospitals.
The film is not of high technical quality. It was shot with available sound and light under difficult conditions. But its message penetrates all the same. One "paranoid" patient, told he has shown no improvement, argues that the prison is making him worse, not better. This sounds like the simple truth, and the film leaves us with the impression that institutions like Bridgewater are causing mental illness, not curing it.
When someone asks me "What's the best documentary you've ever seen?" I find myself in a quandary. The best documentary I've ever seen is Titicut Follies, but for the life of me I couldn't recommend it. That's because this stark portrayal of the "treatment" of the insane at a Massachusetts state asylum is terrifyingly, horribly disturbing. The documentary reflects the horror of its subject matter. Once seen, it is unforgettable. I find it difficult to take responsibility for exposing another person to this film. And that is probably the highest compliment I can pay it.
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love fredrick wisman!!Brinn wrote:I don't know if this would qualify as it's a documentary but I don't think you can get much more disturbing than "Titicut Follies". I saw it for an Abnormal Psych course in college (Univ. of Mass.)...
When someone asks me "What's the best documentary you've ever seen?" I find myself in a quandary. The best documentary I've ever seen is Titicut Follies, but for the life of me I couldn't recommend it. That's because this stark portrayal of the "treatment" of the insane at a Massachusetts state asylum is terrifyingly, horribly disturbing. The documentary reflects the horror of its subject matter. Once seen, it is unforgettable. I find it difficult to take responsibility for exposing another person to this film. And that is probably the highest compliment I can pay it.
a paper i wrote on it
i'm a weirdo, huh.
you're more advanced than a cockroach,
have you ever tried explaining yourself
to one of them?
~ alan bates, the mothman prophecies
i've had this with actors before, on the set,
where they get upset about the [size of my]
trailer, and i'm always like...take my trailer,
cause... i'm from Kentucky
and that's not what we brag about.
~ george clooney, inside the actor's studio
a straight edge for legends at
the fold - searching for our
lost cities of gold. burnt tar,
gravel pits. sixteen gears switch.
Haphazard Lucy strolls by.
~ dennis r wood ~
have you ever tried explaining yourself
to one of them?
~ alan bates, the mothman prophecies
i've had this with actors before, on the set,
where they get upset about the [size of my]
trailer, and i'm always like...take my trailer,
cause... i'm from Kentucky
and that's not what we brag about.
~ george clooney, inside the actor's studio
a straight edge for legends at
the fold - searching for our
lost cities of gold. burnt tar,
gravel pits. sixteen gears switch.
Haphazard Lucy strolls by.
~ dennis r wood ~
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Of all the films mentioned, I've seen Eraserhead, Being John Malkovitch, Repo Man and Brazil. Two others I'd add are Birdy and Darkstar.
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Wow! That's an amazing little piece of writing. Very well done and extremely interesting. You seem to know more about the film than my Psych prof. did. Where did you get a chance to see the film?Lucimay wrote:a paper i wrote on it
i'm a weirdo, huh.
War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. John Stuart Mill
thanks!!Brinn wrote:Wow! That's an amazing little piece of writing. Very well done and extremely interesting. You seem to know more about the film than my Psych prof. did. Where did you get a chance to see the film?Lucimay wrote:a paper i wrote on it
i'm a weirdo, huh.
i saw it when it was released to public television several years ago.
then, when i was in the documentary class a couple of semesters ago,
our prof rented the 16mm of Law & Order (wiseman's film, not the tv show). and i remembered Titicut Follies. so my husband downloaded using bit torrent or something similar.
you're more advanced than a cockroach,
have you ever tried explaining yourself
to one of them?
~ alan bates, the mothman prophecies
i've had this with actors before, on the set,
where they get upset about the [size of my]
trailer, and i'm always like...take my trailer,
cause... i'm from Kentucky
and that's not what we brag about.
~ george clooney, inside the actor's studio
a straight edge for legends at
the fold - searching for our
lost cities of gold. burnt tar,
gravel pits. sixteen gears switch.
Haphazard Lucy strolls by.
~ dennis r wood ~
have you ever tried explaining yourself
to one of them?
~ alan bates, the mothman prophecies
i've had this with actors before, on the set,
where they get upset about the [size of my]
trailer, and i'm always like...take my trailer,
cause... i'm from Kentucky
and that's not what we brag about.
~ george clooney, inside the actor's studio
a straight edge for legends at
the fold - searching for our
lost cities of gold. burnt tar,
gravel pits. sixteen gears switch.
Haphazard Lucy strolls by.
~ dennis r wood ~
Brinn and Luci, that sounds like a compelling documentary...but I'm not sure I have the stomach for it.
I had forgotten about Terry Gilliam's films. They're definitely off-kilter. Brazil might be the one I like best. Its visuals stunned me at the time, but I haven't watched the movie since the '80s.
Menolly mentioned A Clockwork Orange. It's a morally troubling film, so much so for me that I just haven't had the heart to watch it in a long time. Honestly, something like Eraserhead disturbs me less.
Another disturbing, or maybe just plain disgusting, film that I saw was I Spit On Your Grave, whose reputation far preceded it. I can't decide if this is a misogynistic movie or if it's an intensely feminist film. The only thing I'm sure of is that it is one very clumsy piece of filmmaking. Calling it amateur is almost giving it too much credit.
I had forgotten about Terry Gilliam's films. They're definitely off-kilter. Brazil might be the one I like best. Its visuals stunned me at the time, but I haven't watched the movie since the '80s.
Menolly mentioned A Clockwork Orange. It's a morally troubling film, so much so for me that I just haven't had the heart to watch it in a long time. Honestly, something like Eraserhead disturbs me less.
Another disturbing, or maybe just plain disgusting, film that I saw was I Spit On Your Grave, whose reputation far preceded it. I can't decide if this is a misogynistic movie or if it's an intensely feminist film. The only thing I'm sure of is that it is one very clumsy piece of filmmaking. Calling it amateur is almost giving it too much credit.