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Lord Zombiac
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no dogs
no dogs in TC... why?
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Because the Land is beautiful 
But as far as a simple "SRD didn't need them" answer, the Land is a very dangerous place... what with massive disasters like the Ritual and the Sunbane, the only animals that could survive, I think, are the ones that are helped out by higher beings. So cows, chickens, goats, horses were preserved by humans because they were useful to them, and Foul preserved kresh because they were useful to him. The rest died out or are so rare that you probably won't stumble upon one.
But as far as a simple "SRD didn't need them" answer, the Land is a very dangerous place... what with massive disasters like the Ritual and the Sunbane, the only animals that could survive, I think, are the ones that are helped out by higher beings. So cows, chickens, goats, horses were preserved by humans because they were useful to them, and Foul preserved kresh because they were useful to him. The rest died out or are so rare that you probably won't stumble upon one.
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Re: no dogs
Ur-vile ate them...Lord Zombiac wrote:no dogs in TC... why?
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Dogs are highly useful creatures. They can be guards, pack animals, they can pull sleds, they corral livestock.
They communicate with human beings on a higher level than other animals, even apes, who can use sign language-- dogs understand us.
I plan on writing a novella or short story in fantasy written from a dog's point of view.
I will anthropomorphize the dog as little as possible.
As far as I know, this will be a first in fantasy fiction.
All fantasy, (including my own) noticeably lacks in dogs.
They communicate with human beings on a higher level than other animals, even apes, who can use sign language-- dogs understand us.
I plan on writing a novella or short story in fantasy written from a dog's point of view.
I will anthropomorphize the dog as little as possible.
As far as I know, this will be a first in fantasy fiction.
All fantasy, (including my own) noticeably lacks in dogs.
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No dogs? Good point, I had not noticed that. In a normal third-world village (dare we compare the Stowndowns of the the Land to one of those?) there seems to be at least as many dogs as people. Obviously dogs would not be very well suited to life in a Woodhelvin.
There are wolves in the Land, and dogs are just domesticated wolves. But what would domesticated dogs in the Land eat? Would the people of the land have killed other animals to feed dogs? I am not sure.
There are wolves in the Land, and dogs are just domesticated wolves. But what would domesticated dogs in the Land eat? Would the people of the land have killed other animals to feed dogs? I am not sure.
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Dogs eat what we won't. When I took anthro in college we learned that dogs basically domesticated themselves-- for the food.
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Of course there are dogs in the Land, but they are irrelevant to the story so they aren't worth mentioning.
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In my opinion, it's kind of symbolic of the people of the Land's relationship with the land..
They value the land for what it is and are content to co-exist with it.. IMHO 'domesticating' animals is a symbol of wanting to change the land and work your will upon it.
They value the land for what it is and are content to co-exist with it.. IMHO 'domesticating' animals is a symbol of wanting to change the land and work your will upon it.
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Animal rights, environmentalism (be nice to the trees). The Land is a left-wing utopia.ninjaboy wrote:In my opinion, it's kind of symbolic of the people of the Land's relationship with the land..
They value the land for what it is and are content to co-exist with it.. IMHO 'domesticating' animals is a symbol of wanting to change the land and work your will upon it.
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Re: no dogs
Dogs are specifically mentioned as being among the animals that come to the aid of the Unfettered One when he battles the ur-viles at the Celebration of Spring in LFB.Lord Zombiac wrote:no dogs in TC... why?
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Re: no dogs
Snap - good pickup.duchess of malfi wrote:Dogs are specifically mentioned as being among the animals that come to the aid of the Unfettered One when he battles the ur-viles at the Celebration of Spring in LFB.Lord Zombiac wrote:no dogs in TC... why?
I'd still maintain that they would be wild, unchanged and undomesticated dogs.. Like our dingoes.
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While wild dogs would be most common, "domesticating" a dog isn't really a big change. Just feed them everyday for anywhere from 4 months to a year and they will be loyal to you as long as you can provide for them. They would revert to wild dogs rather easily, but if you keep feeding them and be nice to them, they should be fine. So, I object to the arguement of "changing the way the Land works". Dogs are just naturally our best friends. We have had a good relationship with dogs since we were all a nomadic people.
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Through rain and heat and snow and cold:
Though wide world's winds untimely blow,
And earthquakes rock and cliff unseal,
My leaves grow green and seedlings bloom
Since days before the Earth was old
And Time began its walk to doom,
The Forests world's bare rock anneal,
Forbidding dusty waste and death
I am the Land's Creator's hold:
I inhale all expiring breath,
And breath out life to bind and heal.
But ax and fire leave me dead.
I know the hate of hands grown bold.
Depart to save your heart-sap's red:
My hate knows neither rest nor weal."
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Actually, pretty sure the land had domesticated animals. Triock was a shepherd.ninjaboy wrote:In my opinion, it's kind of symbolic of the people of the Land's relationship with the land..
They value the land for what it is and are content to co-exist with it.. IMHO 'domesticating' animals is a symbol of wanting to change the land and work your will upon it.
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Down, waynyy...good waynyy...Nekrimah wrote:No cats either.
As for dogs, doesn't the word "roynish" mean barking sounds? The Waynhim take the place of dogs.
Now put down that bayamo, whatever a bayamo is. No really, I don't know what a bayamo is.
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the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
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the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
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No, but the ur viles do make barking sounds in The Illearth War (I think when fleshharrower makes a scepter by sacrificing an ur vile loremaster, or when they break the word of warning at doom's retreat).As for dogs, doesn't the word "roynish" mean barking sounds? The Waynhim take the place of dogs.
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Hey, that's a good catch [about the hounds, i mean, not my adopted handle].Iolanthe wrote:Chapter 16 of TWL, a couple of pages before vraith is mentioned, among the list of animals is "hounds" - I presume dogs?
That settles that, I guess, along with ninja's notice of the unfettered's helpers.
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the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.