Awesome, I thought you might have "photoshopped" it for a joke!!!!
Now let's google guitar effects called Finn......(20 minutes later)....................................nope not a thing, sigh.....!
How's the pedal work/sound?
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finn
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OK, so I spent Saturday configuring my gear settings (without the GT-8 ) and added a modded Boss DS-1...a local guy does it for a mate of mine and when I heard it I was fully impressed!
Now I have the clean channel, I can add reverb. I can then crunch it at the same level with the Tube Screamer, which I must say was the right choice and then distort with either the B channel which gives me a clean distort (ie no fuzz) or the DS-1 which distorts with more edge; less clarity but more cut. Its ideal for the muted chopping type rhythm, covering things from Simply the Best to Sk8r Boi, Olianthi etc. I can also use the two boxes (DS-1 & TS808) on the B channel which gives big boost and drive/overdrive for soloing.
Anyway apart from delay based stuff like U2 and a few bits of colour with a chorus, I'd be right to go out now with most of the songlist we can cover (c.150 songs), however I'll need to get used to making the changes. This is a big step because the tone on all these settings is massively sweeter than than the GT-8 gives, with none of the "synthy" type undertone. Another big plus is that I'm now getting a much better tonal interpretation of my guitars which are also graduated, Strat through PRS to Les Paul, with the charateristics of each and the setting (pickups, pots etc) adding nice colours shifts especially the PRS 513 which has 13 pick-up positions.
Before moving on I must add the modded DS-1 is really quite cool. It has all the basic DS-1 drive and distort plus the boost, but adds a mild flip switch compression on both drive and distort. This plays well when the level is held in check, but with more boost it does need to be controlled and is a bucking bronco!
Delays next, I'm leaning very heavily towards the Boss DD-7 as it has a sweeter sound than the DD-20 and also is on special! Dan, waiting to hear back on your "Dan Delay"....... (by the way I was aware of your secret identity), tho' I'd be suprised if we could get Danlectro here.....
As always comments appreciated, this is a learning curve/excercise and other ideas are very welcome......
Now I have the clean channel, I can add reverb. I can then crunch it at the same level with the Tube Screamer, which I must say was the right choice and then distort with either the B channel which gives me a clean distort (ie no fuzz) or the DS-1 which distorts with more edge; less clarity but more cut. Its ideal for the muted chopping type rhythm, covering things from Simply the Best to Sk8r Boi, Olianthi etc. I can also use the two boxes (DS-1 & TS808) on the B channel which gives big boost and drive/overdrive for soloing.
Anyway apart from delay based stuff like U2 and a few bits of colour with a chorus, I'd be right to go out now with most of the songlist we can cover (c.150 songs), however I'll need to get used to making the changes. This is a big step because the tone on all these settings is massively sweeter than than the GT-8 gives, with none of the "synthy" type undertone. Another big plus is that I'm now getting a much better tonal interpretation of my guitars which are also graduated, Strat through PRS to Les Paul, with the charateristics of each and the setting (pickups, pots etc) adding nice colours shifts especially the PRS 513 which has 13 pick-up positions.
Before moving on I must add the modded DS-1 is really quite cool. It has all the basic DS-1 drive and distort plus the boost, but adds a mild flip switch compression on both drive and distort. This plays well when the level is held in check, but with more boost it does need to be controlled and is a bucking bronco!
Delays next, I'm leaning very heavily towards the Boss DD-7 as it has a sweeter sound than the DD-20 and also is on special! Dan, waiting to hear back on your "Dan Delay"....... (by the way I was aware of your secret identity), tho' I'd be suprised if we could get Danlectro here.....
As always comments appreciated, this is a learning curve/excercise and other ideas are very welcome......
"Winston, if you were my husband I'd give you poison" ................ "Madam, if you were my wife I would drink it!"
"Terrorism is war by the poor, and war is terrorism by the rich"
"A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well."
"The opposite of pro-life isn't pro-death. Y'know?"
"What if the Hokey Cokey really is what its all about?"
"Terrorism is war by the poor, and war is terrorism by the rich"
"A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well."
"The opposite of pro-life isn't pro-death. Y'know?"
"What if the Hokey Cokey really is what its all about?"
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Here's a whole heap of "DAN" effects..........___ wrote:What makes it even better for me is my name's Dan.
www.noiseon.com/effects/Danelectro/default.aspx
Update to this thread (which is resembling a blog more and more):
I added a Chorus and went with the Boss DD-7 for delay which I like for it's tone. I spent a good few hours getting the settings right and am reasonably confident now that I can get a reasonable colour for the various songs I play without sacrificing the warmth of the amp.
The thing I've been careful to do is to "tint" the sound rather than add a "block colour" to it so I'm adding variance through low level settings rather than wholesale distortion....I'm visualising it as a watercolour wash as opposed to an acrylic solid colour. The really good bit is that for the vast majority of what I'm playing I can use the amp pure, with pick-ups and the amp's settings to get warmth and clarity in the sound and the additives are just variations rather than replacements. The main challenge now will be getting to try them out for rehearsals and gigs and seeing how easy it is (or not) to move between one songs requirements and the next. Whilst the sound is now direct, the complexity of settings is a bit more demanding or at least will be for a while.
I was suprised at the signal drop off as I added effects; there's just 4 pedals (TS OD, Distortion, Chorus and Delay) and the signal decrease was noticable. I had Distortion/OD/CH/DD in that order (which I think is correct) I expect eventually to add a compressor and maybe a flange/phase and a Graphic Eq which will I assume make it worse. Fortunately the tone stays good but I may need a boost in the chain. I also want to investigate a loop past the pre-amp.............
If folk are interested I'll keep posting, my next horizon is a Wah (pretty easy I hope) and a Tuner......I may need to dig into the various offerings out there but I hear there's some new wizz-bang just out that tunes polychromatically (I'm getting a whole new vocabulary out of this too!). After that I'll be looking for a board and power supply: definitely not as easy at it sounds...........
Meanwhile I need to keep practicing. A guy who does some work with me, coaching and teaching music theory, asked me what I was after in my playing and I made him laugh when I told him I wanted to be as good as my gear!
Here's aspiring...............
"Winston, if you were my husband I'd give you poison" ................ "Madam, if you were my wife I would drink it!"
"Terrorism is war by the poor, and war is terrorism by the rich"
"A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well."
"The opposite of pro-life isn't pro-death. Y'know?"
"What if the Hokey Cokey really is what its all about?"
"Terrorism is war by the poor, and war is terrorism by the rich"
"A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well."
"The opposite of pro-life isn't pro-death. Y'know?"
"What if the Hokey Cokey really is what its all about?"
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OK you gear junkies, I'm looking for a recommendation here please.....
I THINK I want an amp for my guitar. It's an electric acoustic, so I don't really need one, but I'm thinking that I want to try out effect stuff and those things where you can loop a bit of tune and play over it. I assume I need an amp before I can do all of this?
It doesn't need to go up to eleven, I never intend to use it to play in public and i have a small house!
I don't really want to spend over £100.
I'm happy enough to buy second-hand if the opportunity presents.
So, what should I look for?
I THINK I want an amp for my guitar. It's an electric acoustic, so I don't really need one, but I'm thinking that I want to try out effect stuff and those things where you can loop a bit of tune and play over it. I assume I need an amp before I can do all of this?
It doesn't need to go up to eleven, I never intend to use it to play in public and i have a small house!
I don't really want to spend over £100.
I'm happy enough to buy second-hand if the opportunity presents.
So, what should I look for?
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You can get a small amp for that price. I always had Crate for small practice amps, back in the day. I know Fender makes a little 15 or 20 watt that SHOULD go for about that price [converting from dollars, guessing]. And Marshall does too.Stonemaybe wrote:OK you gear junkies, I'm looking for a recommendation here please.....
I THINK I want an amp for my guitar. It's an electric acoustic, so I don't really need one, but I'm thinking that I want to try out effect stuff and those things where you can loop a bit of tune and play over it. I assume I need an amp before I can do all of this?
It doesn't need to go up to eleven, I never intend to use it to play in public and i have a small house!
I don't really want to spend over £100.
I'm happy enough to buy second-hand if the opportunity presents.
So, what should I look for?
But most digital multi-effects processors have a headphones jack, amp wouldn't be a necessity then, if you get one.
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the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
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But it's likely to cost you more than 100. Unless you look used, and get a bit lucky.
But it's likely to cost you more than 100. Unless you look used, and get a bit lucky.
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the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
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I have an old Zoom multi effect which I used as a practice piece which has headphones but also has an auxilliary (Aux) input which can be plugged into my PC. On the net here are lots of backing tracks for songs and you can play along with these or your itunes or YouTube songs and balance the volumes so you can hear what you are doing.
I'd reckon you should be able to get something like this for around a 100 quid. This assumes of course you don't want to do anything out loud (like live performance). If you did I'd recommend an AER and you might like to try them out and expand your budget a bit. the Cubes come with a few effects and produce a really lovely sound. Mine has 2 channels, the second of which can take a vocal mike.
I'd reckon you should be able to get something like this for around a 100 quid. This assumes of course you don't want to do anything out loud (like live performance). If you did I'd recommend an AER and you might like to try them out and expand your budget a bit. the Cubes come with a few effects and produce a really lovely sound. Mine has 2 channels, the second of which can take a vocal mike.
"Winston, if you were my husband I'd give you poison" ................ "Madam, if you were my wife I would drink it!"
"Terrorism is war by the poor, and war is terrorism by the rich"
"A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well."
"The opposite of pro-life isn't pro-death. Y'know?"
"What if the Hokey Cokey really is what its all about?"
"Terrorism is war by the poor, and war is terrorism by the rich"
"A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well."
"The opposite of pro-life isn't pro-death. Y'know?"
"What if the Hokey Cokey really is what its all about?"
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Thanks gentlemen!
The £100 budget was for an amp that I thought I needed as a basic unit before other gear- but if i don't need that then that's £100 extra towards the interesting stuff!
'multi-effects' sounds good, plugging into PC sounds good (as long as it won't blow up my small speakers, but I'll have headphones on, right?) what else should I be looking for/at?
The £100 budget was for an amp that I thought I needed as a basic unit before other gear- but if i don't need that then that's £100 extra towards the interesting stuff!
'multi-effects' sounds good, plugging into PC sounds good (as long as it won't blow up my small speakers, but I'll have headphones on, right?) what else should I be looking for/at?
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Personally, I always decide my budget, what I'm looking for [like "That sound so and so on such and such song"....seems you want something that can loop, and of course has headphone jack...think about what other sounds you want, cuz a multi can do...well...multi..]. Then I go to a friendly store for musicians that has people who know what they're talking about, and lets me mess around with the gear.Stonemaybe wrote:Thanks gentlemen!
The £100 budget was for an amp that I thought I needed as a basic unit before other gear- but if i don't need that then that's £100 extra towards the interesting stuff!
'multi-effects' sounds good, plugging into PC sounds good (as long as it won't blow up my small speakers, but I'll have headphones on, right?) what else should I be looking for/at?
What Finn is talking about, hooking to PC is an OUTPUT from your PC [probably the same one you use for speakers/headphones INTO the effects processor [AUX IN]. Your headphones will be plugged into the Processor. Both the guitar and PC will be sending to the processor, then the processor to your headphones, and you play along. [so you're NOT playing INTO the PC].
This matters because you CAN play into/record on your PC [depending on your PC]...there's gear/software to do it...but that's a different animal from what you were asking about
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the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.