Collective memory: Haruchai/Ramen and Native Americans

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Collective memory: Haruchai/Ramen and Native Americans

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This isn't really about Runes exactly, but I'm thinking about the scene where Stave and Hami meet, and the two talk about how "we remember" or "we were there" (with "we" meaning the Haruchai and Ramen, respectively). This always struck me as unique and powerful, the way that not only do their memories transcend thousands of years, but at least for the Haruchai, their collective consciousness allows them to actually relive those experiences in their minds. Then I was reading this article (indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2012 ... day-145807) about Native Americans recounting what really happened at Thanksgiving, and felt a similar feeling:
They were shooting guns and canons as a celebration, which alerted us because we didn’t know who they were shooting at ... We were there for days ... they were very vulnerable and we did protect them, not just support them, we protected them.
Anyway, not much more to say about this except that I found the parallel striking.
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I couldn't get the link to open.
I'll keep trying though.

I just read a book about that time "Mayflower".
The Indians took some of the Pilgrims north to meet the Massachusetts tribe (before the Pilgrims killed a whole bunch of them) and along the way the Pilgrims stopped several times at these "spots" like markers or holes where the Indians would stop and tell a story related to that area.
Or something like that.
They basically had their entire history memorized with location markers to help them remember the stories.

I didn't explain it very well but it falls into your collective memory post.
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High Lord Tolkien wrote:I couldn't get the link to open.
I'll keep trying though.

I just read a book about that time "Mayflower".
The Indians took some of the Pilgrims north to meet the Massachusetts tribe (before the Pilgrims killed a whole bunch of them) and along the way the Pilgrims stopped several times at these "spots" like markers or holes where the Indians would stop and tell a story related to that area.
Or something like that.
They basically had their entire history memorized with location markers to help them remember the stories.

I didn't explain it very well but it falls into your collective memory post.
in what little is left of woodland near where i lived in wood's hole MA there were stone works that i'm told were that...part guide post, part memorial/ceremonial. (Not burial, though...those are different)
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I couldn't get the link to open.
I'll keep trying though.
Yeah, it was down earlier tonight, but it's working now.
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