Actually, on the heels of that, although about half of people shot by the police in the US are white, black people are killed at more than twice the rate according to this handy police shootings database, maintained since 2015.Avatar wrote:Obviously white people don't care if the police kill other white people...Hashi Lebwohl wrote:
Incidentally, in that same time 143 white people have been killed by police...
Is this what it has come to? I am no sook, but this is all too sad.ur-Nanothnir wrote:https://streamable.com/u2jzoo
Cops in Minneapolis are patrolling neighborhoods and SHOOTING people standing on their porches.
"LIGHT 'EM UP!"
Wasn't it only a week before Mr. Floyd when Central Park Karen called the cops on a black birdwatcher who was not bothering anyone?SoulBiter wrote:It was NOT the murder of George Floyd that protesters are out protesting for. That was the catalyst though and the last straw.
Ahmaud Arbery - Shot while out running by 2 white guys in a white neighborhood while a third white guy filmed the whole thing. But worse, until that video got leaked, no charges would be pressed.
Breonna Taylor - Killed by cops in Kentucky on a no-knock warrant. Sadly the cops werent even at the right house. Her BF thought it was a breakin, grabbed his gun, but the police ended up shooting and killing Breonna.
So yes the black community has had enough. And you know what, we should all have had enough of this. Whether you believe it or not, blacks live in a different society than we do. One where cops get called just because they are black. One where they get arrested because they are black. One that has many financial inequities because they are black. If you don't believe that then you are not paying attention or are being deliberately obtuse. That is why they are protesting and rightly so. And the rest of us in the USA need to open our eyes and stop being silent about it, and call for actual equity not equity in name only. Im not talking about reparations, which I disagree with. I am taking about changes in society in general and an actual open dialog to understand the disparities and do away with them.
Go fuck yourself. Ignorant troll.wayfriend wrote:The murder of a man for no good reason is a worse crime than rioting.
The fact that his murderers will not be held accountable is a worse crime yet.
So here we are, again, at KevinsWatch, promoting outrage at what black people do and glossing over the worse crimes committed against black people. That's the modern white supremacy movement for you, in a nutshell.
White people have power. They don't NEED to riot, and that is the ONLY reason they don't. They send in the National Guard and the riot police when they are threatened. They have power. Black people are powerless against injustice, and that's why they riot.
Focusing on the rioting without putting it into context is just another way of promoting outrage against black people.
Yeah. My signature stays. It's necessary.
Residents walk past a broken display window of Salvatore Ferragamo store in Washington, Monday, June 1, 2020, damaged from the overnight protests on the death of George Floyd, a black Minnesota man who died in police custody. (Credit: Manuel Balce Ceneta/AP)
ROME -- One Vatican official has warned that violent protests surrounding the killing of George Floyd -- whose death took the global stage seemingly overnight, prompting widespread backlash throughout the international community -- will only make racism worse, without solving the underlying issues.
"What is happening in the United States and in other parts of the world reveals that racism is truly like a virus ... placed in people's hearts," Archbishop Vincenzo Paglia told Crux, adding, "If it is not controlled, but is allowed to go free, it becomes a real and true pandemic."
President of the Vatican's Academy for Life, Paglia said racism is rooted in both "narcissism" and "individualism," which are "unfortunately spreading."
"We must deeply commit ourselves to overcoming it," he said, but insisted that violence is not the answer.
Referring to biblical passages written by the Apostle Paul, Paglia stressed that "evil is overcome with good, not with another evil. Violence is defeated with non-violence. Not with further violence."
Pointing to several iconic figures who lead large-scale protests, but in a peaceful manner, he pointed to Dr. Martin Luther King in the United States; Mahatma Ghandi in India; and St. Pope John Paul II, "who forgave the man who shot him."
"Diversity must enrich us, not destroy us. It must make us richer, not more conflicted," he said, voicing his hope that "the vaccine of brotherhood is spread throughout the world for a wonderful revolution of a universal fraternity which counters that racism that lurks in the heart."
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When it comes to fighting deeply engrained racist attitudes, Paglia said a cultural revolution is needed, especially when racism is evident in the highest tiers of society.
"It's important that it is studied, and a mentality of solidarity is created at all levels of society, because ignorance is the terrain on which racism is spread most easily," he said, urging that anti-racist mentalities based on solidarity be taught in schools, so people "as children" learn to look at others without prejudice.
Paglia also stressed the need to take this approach and, "communicate it in the governing classes, to the senior executives, and even to the police, the armed forces, because an antidote to ignorance is awareness."
A "spiritual jolt" is also needed, he said, and encouraged churches and various religious confessions "intervene more, showing that God is the father of all, and prefers no person over another."
"I think the Church has a great, very large task. In my view, it must be even more creative, bolder," he said, insisting that in the current context, the Church must be "a prophetic voice, and one that is stronger, because the desert is becoming more arduous."
Paglia also called for "a leap of conscience" to be made, "so that the word 'race' be banned, and the words 'brother' and 'sister' be proposed more." Brotherhood and solidarity, he said, are "the vaccine to combat this racism."
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Abso fuckin lutely on all counts, SB.SoulBiter wrote:Because its all white supremacists causing ALL of the looting and vandalism, right WF? I have no love for white supremacists, but to try to make it all about them is also a shifting of the blame. I know you have an axe to grind on this but you could not be more wrong here.
Is it White Supremacists? Yes
Is it Antifa? Yes
Is it people just taking advantage (both white and black)? Yes?
). We are going to continue to make sure that our law enforcement officers have the proper training on implicit bias. Were going to do more on deescalation training for police officers. And, were going to do more to create best practices for police departments on the use of force,
We must improve law enforcement access to quality training, recruit more minorities to serve as officers and more oversight to Ohios law enforcement agencies to ensure accountability.
The prospect of engaging in some violence and criminal activity entices all sorts of people who harbor ill intent.SoulBiter wrote:Is it White Supremacists? Yes
Is it Antifa? Yes
Is it people just taking advantage (both white and black)? Yes
Hashi Lebwohl wrote: There is very little Trump can do about the riots since he cannot deploy the military on U. S. soil.
--AThe US military moved 1,600 soldiers into positions in Washington DC
The Pentagon moved 1,600 US Army soldiers to bases just outside Washington, DC, where they are on alert to respond to unrest in the nation's capital if necessary.
"The Department of Defense moved multiple active duty Army units into the National Capitol Region as a prudent planning measure in response to ongoing support to civil authorities operations," Pentagon spokesman Jonathan Hoffman said in an emailed statement Tuesday night.
The Army soldiers moved into areas around DC include an infantry battalion designated Task Force 504 and assigned to the 82nd Airborne Division's Immediate Response Force at Fort Bragg.
The Associated Press reported Tuesday that there are roughly 700 of these soldiers near the capital, adding that troops are armed with riot gear and bayonets.
The 82nd's Immediate Response Force is a crisis response force that was last called up in January for a snap deployment to the Middle East during a period of heightened tensions with Iran.
The Pentagon also moved the 16th Military Police Brigade headquarters from Fort Bragg and the 91st Military Police Battalion from Fort Drum to DC, Hoffman said, explaining that the brigade provides command and control for the battalion, which provides military police and engineering capabilities.
All of the 1,600 troops arrived in the DC area within the last 24 hours, the spokesman said, adding that while they are near DC, they are not currently "participating in defense support to civil authority operations."
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wayfriend wrote: ... every time you refuse to say that white supremacists are involved - every time you refer to agitators as just 'people' - you are supporting white supremacists. Because you are letting them off the hook. Because you are muddying the waters to their advantage.
Oh, that wasn't specifically in response to your post, although it did seem relevant.Hashi Lebwohl wrote:Washington, D. C. is different--it is already under Federal/military control because it does not belong to any State. The Pentagon is not allowed to deploy troops onto the streets of New York City, or Houston, or San Diego, or anywhere else; only State Governors have the authority to deploy the National Guard.
Zee, the logic of that post is literally inarguable to anyone...Zarathustra wrote:So every time we don't make the point you want to make, we are supporting white supremacists?
Others have already addressed how ludicrous and irrelevant your point is. I'm not going to try to outdo them. I just dropped in to point and laugh, mainly.
But I do note a curious discrepancy in your posts. You conspicuously fail each time to blame blacks for looting/rioting. So you are literally letting them off the hook. You even went so far as to imply that they NEED to riot, because they are so powerless (after 8 years of black President, black Attorneys General, black UN Ambassador, etc., etc.).
This is a far more egregious act of excusing race-based lawlessness than merely omitting talk of "white supremacists" from our posts (which, if you were actually reading here, you'd see isn't true). Think about how insulting it is to black people for you to say they are so helpless/powerless that of course they must steal iphones and shoes. You are setting the bar so low for them, you're justifying/reinforcing the meme that black people are all looters and petty criminals. The only difference between your act of stereotyping them and a critic stereotyping them is you're adding, "Well, what do you expect? They can't help it!" Which seems even more insulting than admitting that they *can* help it.
Not all black people are looters.
Not all protesters are violent.
White supremacists are apparently trying to hijack the protests to make blacks look bad.
All true.
You know what else is true?
Not all cops are racists killers. So according to your logic, every time you fail to mention this, you are supporting cop killers and anarchy. Yep, every time you don't make a point, we are now justified in reading whatever point we want into your posts, because you've explained your posting standard.
Yes very true... but then again, why ever let the truth get in the way of a hate-filled agenda-laden extremist narrative that some here look to portray?Hashi Lebwohl wrote:The charges against the officer in question have been upgraded to second-degree murder and all three officers who stood by and did nothing are being charged with aiding and abetting second-degree murder--they could have stopped it but did not.
Signs saying "no justice" are factually inaccurate.
wayfriend last Friday wrote:The murder of a man for no good reason is a worse crime than rioting.
The fact that his murderers will not be held accountable is a worse crime yet.
WF, you really need to learn the definition of the word fact. Here's a clue...TheFallen last Friday wrote:Wayfriend
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Your statement that George Floyd's killers will not be held accountable under the law is currently merely a prediction and not a matter of fact. It may turn out to be accurate, I grant you (and of course I hope it doesn't and will be utterly appalled if it does) - however, presenting prediction as fact brings nothing of value to the debate. Quite the reverse in fact.
