Fantasy themes and films

Post by **danlo** » Fri Nov 22, 2002 8:25 pm

U have just met another person who loves the Hyperion books--We have a Simmon's topic in Gen. Sci-Fi @ the Hangar--see u there! Actually I have been VERY tempted 2 start a full Simmons forum---might b a tuff go @ 1st, but there r lots of Simmons fans at A Song of Ice and Fire!

Post by **Earthblood** » Fri Nov 22, 2002 9:56 pm

Exactly Duchess! The swords did have special powers due to where they came from & I totally forgot about the seeds/soil as Sam's gift. Not to be too critical though, I really enjoyed the movie. I already own the animated versions of the Hobbit & LOTR. Can't wait for TTT!!

Post by **duchess of malfi** » Sat Nov 23, 2002 12:08 am

I can't wait for it either. I just got home from the grocery store, and while drving by the movie theater I saw on their big sign that they are selling tickets starting today! Guess where I'll be tomorrow standing in line!

Post by **duchess of malfi** » Sat Nov 23, 2002 8:51 pm

Yes, Yes, my Precioussssssss, I have my Two Towers tickets!!!

(excuse me, as now i must go dance through my house for joy)

Post by **Lord Mhoram** » Sat Nov 23, 2002 11:42 pm

Good luck!

Post by **Landwaster** » Sun Nov 24, 2002 9:14 pm

danlo wrote:Landwaster, I don't kno about "Spares" but a book u might b interested in, along those lines, is The Kiln People by David Brin.

Haven't heard of it, Danlo, but if I see it around, will give it a go!

Post by **Landwaster** » Sun Nov 24, 2002 9:16 pm

Prince of Amber wrote:I haven't been to this board for a while. so imagine my surprise to find I'd had a sex change
Landwaster - have you read any other books by F.Paul Wilson? I think I've read the whole Keep cycle but I think some other books intesect and I'm not sure how that all works out.

Oops ... t'was the 'Amber' thing that flummoxed me. Apologies!

Nope, had no idea there was a cycle! Might have to check it out.

Post by **Landwaster** » Sun Nov 24, 2002 9:18 pm

Earthblood wrote:My only real disappointment w/FOTR was the TOTAL exclusion of the hobbits meeting w/Tom Bombadil & thier encounter with the dead in the barrows on the way to the Prancing Pony.

Did anyone else notice that Jacko's FOTR followed in a slightly similar vein to Bakshi's cartoon version?

Post by **duchess of malfi** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 5:34 pm

Is that the cartoon version with the singing orcs?? That freaked me out a bit when I first saw it...

Post by **Landwaster** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 10:40 pm

duchess of malfi wrote:Is that the cartoon version with the singing orcs?? That freaked me out a bit when I first saw it...

Hmm ... singing orcs ... not sure if remember that, but probably. Yes its a cartoon version. Done by Ralph Bakshi, of Fritz The Cat fame.

Post by **Skyweir** » Tue Dec 03, 2002 6:17 am

haha .. I must get my Two Towers tickets soon too!! .. I just saw the new Harry Potter movie and it was really good!!

a bit sad to hear Dumbledore died

.. wonder how that will impact on the other 2 book/films ..

anyway it was quite good ..

Post by **Michael Giantfriend** » Tue Dec 03, 2002 1:34 pm

Landwaster wrote:
duchess of malfi wrote:Is that the cartoon version with the singing orcs?? That freaked me out a bit when I first saw it...
Hmm ... singing orcs ... not sure if remember that, but probably. Yes its a cartoon version. Done by Ralph Bakshi, of Fritz The Cat fame.

Yup. As Saruman's Uruk Hai come over the crest of the hill in front of Helm's Deep, they are singing their war chant in deep, sepulchural tones that just sound SO cool. To hell with the Hakka, this is really scary! If the New Zealand All Blacks started singing this one, they'd be facing an empty pitch!

Of course there are going to be similarities between the Bakshi version and PJ's - they're both trying to be as close to the source material as possible. However, I think both were improved by the deletion of the Tom Bombadil scenes. God knows what Tolkien was smoking when he wrote that, it sure wasn't Westfarthing Weed!

I do think there was one scene in which the Bakshi version was far, far better, and much scarier. That was in the room in the Prancing Pony when the Nazgûl attack. In PJ's they just breeze in through the door. In Bakshi's, they materialise through the shadows at the bottom of the room. Far more menacing!

15 days, 6 hours 29 minutes to go to TT. It's not like I'm counting down the time or anything

Post by **duchess of malfi** » Tue Dec 03, 2002 4:10 pm

Maybe I'm remembering a different version. The singing orcs I remember were walking through Mordor, they're the ones that pick up Frodo and Sam when they're in disguise. They are singing some sort of song about whips and being slaves of Sauron??
And I have my TTT tickets, too. I get to see it at 7:30PM on December 18. I even have a vacation day from work, am I sick or what??

Post by **[Syl]** » Wed Dec 04, 2002 8:48 am

If I remember correctly, Leonard Nemoy did some of the singing on Bakshi's soundtrack... nothing can make up for that.

I liked Tom Bombadill, but I think it was a good move to cut him out. Plot flow, and all.

Post by **Landwaster** » Wed Dec 04, 2002 11:46 pm

Michael Giantfriend wrote:Yup. As Saruman's Uruk Hai come over the crest of the hill in front of Helm's Deep, they are singing their war chant in deep, sepulchural tones that just sound SO cool. To hell with the Hakka, this is really scary! If the New Zealand All Blacks started singing this one, they'd be facing an empty pitch!

Of course there are going to be similarities between the Bakshi version and PJ's - they're both trying to be as close to the source material as possible. However, I think both were improved by the deletion of the Tom Bombadil scenes. God knows what Tolkien was smoking when he wrote that, it sure wasn't Westfarthing Weed!

I do think there was one scene in which the Bakshi version was far, far better, and much scarier. That was in the room in the Prancing Pony when the Nazgûl attack. In PJ's they just breeze in through the door. In Bakshi's, they materialise through the shadows at the bottom of the room. Far more menacing!

15 days, 6 hours 29 minutes to go to TT. It's not like I'm counting down the time or anything

Fantastic, I have an ex-rental video of Bakshi's LOTR, I'll have to go check that out again. I remember the thousands of red eyes and that was eerie enough. Hehe Jonah Lomu --> Uruk-Hai ... does much need to change?

Well I would have liked to have seen the barrow episode shown in film, and even the issues with trying to get around the trees in that forest between Hobbiton and Bree.

I reckon I agree that Bakshi's Prancing Pony scene of the Nazgul attack was very eerie, and probably tips Jacko's version.

15 days? That's 20th Dec, right? Cor blimey, we don't get it until Dec 26!

Post by **Landwaster** » Wed Dec 04, 2002 11:49 pm

duchess of malfi wrote:Maybe I'm remembering a different version. The singing orcs I remember were walking through Mordor, they're the ones that pick up Frodo and Sam when they're in disguise. They are singing some sort of song about whips and being slaves of Sauron?

Hmm, Bakshi's version doesn't get as far as Mordor, it only went as far as Helms Deep. So perhaps its a different show!

duchess of malfi wrote:And I have my TTT tickets, too. I get to see it at 7:30PM on December 18. I even have a vacation day from work, am I sick or what??

Obsessed, perhaps, but no, not sick

I think you lot should all wait until Dec 26 out of moral support for me. Its just not fair, I tells yer.

Post by **Skyweir** » Mon Dec 09, 2002 2:16 am

I'm getting my tickets today!!!!!

for the 26th Dec that is

cannot wait .. and will be avoiding fan-sites till at least the 27th!!! heh!!

cool!!!! wow the Harry Potter lines were soooo long .. mmm .. maybe for 'TTT' I should start queing now .. mmm ...

Post by **duchess of malfi** » Mon Dec 09, 2002 6:06 am

Lord Skyweir, I will not say a word about the movie on this forum, until it opens up down in your country!

Post by **Skyweir** » Tue Dec 10, 2002 2:17 am

LOL .. many thanks Duchess

if our situations were reversed .. I dont know that I could contain myself that long!!

ts'ok - shout from the roof-tops!!

.. I will avert mine eyes .. and mine ears

Post by **duchess of malfi** » Tue Dec 10, 2002 5:02 am

I'll just stick it in it's own thread with a spoiler warning for you and Landwaster and Vain!

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