What utter bullshit. This psycho bitch murdered her kids in cold blood and admitted it, yet she's found not guilty. I have utterly lost faith in humanity.Andrea Yates was found not guilty by reason of insanity Wednesday in the bathtub drownings of her young children.
The 42-year-old will be committed to a state mental hospital, with periodic hearings before a judge to determine whether she should be released.
Un-b-effin'-lievable!
Un-b-effin'-lievable!
www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/07/26/yates.trial.ap/index.html
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She should be in prison for life (or dead) for murdering her five children, not sent to a hospital that she is eligible for release from in 30 days.
And she was found not guilty! She admitted it, she is guilty, regardless of her mental state (and she was sane enough to wait 'till the house was empty to do it).
And she was found not guilty! She admitted it, she is guilty, regardless of her mental state (and she was sane enough to wait 'till the house was empty to do it).
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Because she put some thought into it and planned it doesn't mean she is not insane. Insane people put a lot of planning into things. Putting her in prison means she could harm others because of her state of mind, we don't want more people hurt.
In her mind, she was doing the right thing. She probably wants to die, keeping her alive might make her miserable which is what I want. For her to suffer for what she did.
Personally, I don't think she is mentally ill and she knew what she was doing.
In her mind, she was doing the right thing. She probably wants to die, keeping her alive might make her miserable which is what I want. For her to suffer for what she did.
Personally, I don't think she is mentally ill and she knew what she was doing.
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She murdered her own five children.
I don't know how much more insane someone can be.
I think the verdict was correct, and I don't think she's going to get out in thirty days or even thirty years.
And I bet you that anyone else whose dealt with post-partem (sp?) depression, in some degree (as I have) will tell you that it's real, and that they could envision it being this extreme.
I don't know how much more insane someone can be.
I think the verdict was correct, and I don't think she's going to get out in thirty days or even thirty years.
And I bet you that anyone else whose dealt with post-partem (sp?) depression, in some degree (as I have) will tell you that it's real, and that they could envision it being this extreme.
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IATAWWAM.....let's also not forget to put some burden on the prosecution for failing to charge her appropriate to their desired verdict...from what I've seen the jury was only given 2 choices, and the prosecution failed to prove their case to the letter of the law, so thay had to choose the defense....seems simple enough, given our justice system...
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I gotta go with W and M here. No sane mother would kill her kids. I am more pissy about the husband who kept her in that homeschooling situation alone, suffering post-partum depression without help. He KNEW she was unstable. Heck, I am stable and have only 3 kids, but homeschooling all of them at once might drive ME to a loony bin! I told them once they each reach 7th grade we will homeschool.
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Of course it's the husband's fault she killed the kids, what with him being a licensed psychologist and all.
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maybe he killed the kids? subtle psycho-manipulation of his vulnerable wife? 
Love how it comes back to the husband. Good to see we're standing up for women's equality here. This was an adult who was capable of making adult decisions. She cooly and methodically drowned her five children. She deserves prison for life if not the death penalty.
Hey Wayfriend, wanna make a friendly wager? Lorena Bobbit was found not guilty by reason of insanity too. Had she been found guilty she would have gotten 21 years, as it was she walked out of the hospital a free woman in 45 days. Yates'll be free within 5 years, probably less.
On another rant, this happened in Texas. How much would anyone like to wager that if the same crime had been committed by Mr. Yates he'd be riding the lightning?
Hey Wayfriend, wanna make a friendly wager? Lorena Bobbit was found not guilty by reason of insanity too. Had she been found guilty she would have gotten 21 years, as it was she walked out of the hospital a free woman in 45 days. Yates'll be free within 5 years, probably less.
On another rant, this happened in Texas. How much would anyone like to wager that if the same crime had been committed by Mr. Yates he'd be riding the lightning?
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I know very little about the case but if the article posted is accurate it seems rather open and shut.
However,Prosecutors had maintained that Yates failed to meet the state's definition of insanity: that a severe mental illness prevents someone who is committing a crime from knowing that it is wrong.
including half a dozen psychiatrists who testified that Yates was so psychotic that she didn't know her actions were wrong. They said that in her delusional mind, she thought killing the youngsters was right.
It'd take you a long time to blow up or shoot all the sheep in this country, but one diseased banana...could kill 'em all.
I didn't even know sheep ate bananas.
I didn't even know sheep ate bananas.
That's the problem with "experts". For every one you show me who agrees with you, I'll show you five that agree with me.
It's especially tricky with a field as nebulous as psychiatry.
It's especially tricky with a field as nebulous as psychiatry.
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... which is why we should execute them? (!!!)Cail wrote:That's the problem with "experts". For every one you show me who agrees with you, I'll show you five that agree with me.
It's especially tricky with a field as nebulous as psychiatry.
I'd be an idiot to take that wager - Mr Yates can't claim to have postpartum depression.Cail wrote:How much would anyone like to wager that if the same crime had been committed by Mr. Yates he'd be riding the lightning?
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Who? The experts? That's a little harsh, dontcha think?Wayfriend wrote:... which is why we should execute them? (!!!)Cail wrote:That's the problem with "experts". For every one you show me who agrees with you, I'll show you five that agree with me.
It's especially tricky with a field as nebulous as psychiatry.
If you mean however, Yates, then no. She should be executed because she murdered 5 innocent infants/toddlers, not for any other reason.
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Precicely WH.
And Wayfriend, that's exactly my point. Women can claim post-partum and get away with murder (5 counts this time, how many did Susan Smith snuff?), but a man could have all sorts of issues and he'd not only be convicted in a heartbeat, groups like NOW would be vocal as hell during the trial.
But hey, this is just another way of making women non-responsible. I think it's reprehensible.
And Wayfriend, that's exactly my point. Women can claim post-partum and get away with murder (5 counts this time, how many did Susan Smith snuff?), but a man could have all sorts of issues and he'd not only be convicted in a heartbeat, groups like NOW would be vocal as hell during the trial.
But hey, this is just another way of making women non-responsible. I think it's reprehensible.
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