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Book 2 of the Last Chronicles of Thomas Covenant

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Wow, that was kind of depressing...

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We finally find out what the "darkness" is over the hearts of the Elohim is...

Nope, not Foul, not Insequent, not skurj or anything.

It's US! We people from the outside world that have the capacity for utter desecration. I dunno about you guys but that hit me pretty hard. Not just as depressing either, but foreboding.

Should the Land really be left in the hands of the likes of Thomas, Linden, Joan, Roger, and Jeremiah? What good have they done thus far? To think... all we're really useful for is freeing Lord Foul. :(
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...don't forget that it is Anele,, the only one existing in the ," future" as the story is told, who is the Hope of The Land..Hope is in the Future.
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Ok, there's some comedic trash for most of this post, but first an attempt to seriously engage this interesting point.

Here's the thing - to the elohim, anything short of the destruction of the arch of time isn't of too much importance. "What good have they done?" Yes, Thomas caused some pretty crappy things during his stays in the land in the first chronicles (everything elena did he's indirectly responsible for, at least arguably) but ultimately the land would've been taken over by lord foul but for covenant's aid. Or scratch that, I guess it would've been Drool Rockworm, since he would've had the staff and the stone. Similarly, Hile Troy's tactics may have been disastrous, but considering the strength to which he build the land's military force and such, I wonder how well the fights against foul's forces would have gone without him. Mhoram did more than covenant to save the land's people, but it's the krill that TC awakened which allows him to wield his newfound power.

Moreover the "real world" people serve as witness to the land's heroes in (now) a total of four different age. Without linden and thomas, people like sunder, hollian, liand, and the masters would never have anyone to convince them that the land or earthpower are an integral and important part of, liek, the way things go.

And just because it didn't break the arch, were things like kevin's ritual of desecration all that much better?

The land should let ME in. I could fix things.

I'd start by changing the staff of law into the sword of law because everyone knows the main character of a fantasy book should have a sword. And for that matter should be a man so linden would have to step over and become a fawning cleric type (unless she wants to try taking up archery). I would then, per the suggestions of other KW members, proceed to through The One White Gold Ring into the fires of Gravin Threndor. I would then realize that in fact there are two white gold rings and I just got rid of my side's ring, and proceed to slam my head into a wall two or three dozen times.

Recognizing the Skurj as the big bad monsters they are, I would call on the power rangers to help . In this vein, I totally could've solved the sunbane problem thanks to my knowledge of the environment which I learned through Captain Planet

Finally, I'd mop the floor with Foul by challenging him to a chess match, about the closest figure to "death" in the series, to a chess match, and since he obviously has never played the game it would prove an easy victory. I would force him to realize a la eric the viking or seventh seal that his victory over life can never be final. Not even if he breaks the arch. Even though this probably isn't true I think I can fool him if I just beat him in chess.

EDIT-Coming soon, an alternative fanfiction by holsety where linden somehow summons him at the end of fatal revenant.

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"Oh, Linden?" His first words were a hoarse gasp. "Hey babe."
"Babe?" Infelice snapped viciously. "Babe? Such words must not be answered with actions! She's old enough to be your mother!"
Disclaimer-Not really. How old is linden anyway?
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Holsety wrote:
Recognizing the Skurj as the big bad monsters they are, I would call on the power rangers to help . In this vein, I totally could've solved the sunbane problem thanks to my knowledge of the environment which I learned through Captain Planet
Whoa, your knowledge of nerdy stuff is at the third level ogre magi (with invisibility) stratus! Awesome. :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
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earthbrah wrote:Holsety wrote:
Recognizing the Skurj as the big bad monsters they are, I would call on the power rangers to help . In this vein, I totally could've solved the sunbane problem thanks to my knowledge of the environment which I learned through Captain Planet
Whoa, your knowledge of nerdy stuff is at the third level ogre magi (with invisibility) stratus! Awesome. :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Please. Third level ogre magus...charlatan.
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Holsety wrote:
Please. Third level ogre magus...charlatan.
I won't dispute that!

Still loved yer rant though.
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Krilly wrote:Should the Land really be left in the hands of the likes of Thomas, Linden, Joan, Roger, and Jeremiah? What good have they done thus far? To think... all we're really useful for is freeing Lord Foul. :(
No, it's not like that. Before the first person from "our" world went to that world, Foul and the Ravers had done horrifying things. The destruction of the One Forest being the worst. But the corruption of the Viles and the war between the King and Queen are also biggies.

And the things that slowed down Foul and the Ravers were not remotely pleasant. The Appointed Elohim giving up her life to merge with the One Forest, which led to her becoming imprisoned in stone as the Colossus. The Ritual of Desecration.

Covenant and Linden came to the Land and slowed Foul and the Ravers down again. The fact that neither of those times was permanent is not anything to hold against them. No native of the Land or its earth had done better.
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I just want to say, I do acknowledge there is an obvious bad side to covenant et al which is their potential to break the arch...without them I guess it's possible foul would've been trapped within the earth for all time.

But as I was saying before and as Fist has also said, they've done a good job so far. I'm not saying linden's attitude doesn't worry me like crazy (especially considering this is the last chronicles), but the masters and everyone else seem to forget that TC was as dangerous to the land. Moreover in hindsight it seems that his choice of one girl over the entire land in the end put him in the direction towards saving the land a little while later, too (remember Linden similarly is prioritizing Jeremiah over the land). Mhoram and others trusted in him, though, and in the end he was able to redeem the land from foul, at least temporarily.
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Holsety wrote:I'm not saying linden's attitude doesn't worry me like crazy (especially considering this is the last chronicles)
Right??? With a book called The Final Dark in the works... :LOLS:
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Post by aliensporebomb »

Isn't it "The Last Dark"?

But I don't necessarily see it as "The End of the Land" but rather "The End of Darkness".

Unless, of course, Foul gets his way.
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