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sheesh you people need to chill!
Raisins are good! Bow down and worship the humble raisin! Especially in a curry (and I KNOW I have supporters on this one!). Mixed raisins and nuts mmmmmm!
I'm trying to think of something that gets to me foodywise, but I think I only have mild annoyances rather than serious gripes (mayonnaise in anything, waiters who ask if you'd like black pepper or parmesan before you've even tasted the pasta dish put before you, and the people who say yes, food on my plate that is looking at me, cheese that doesn't melt, 'speciality menus' that are experimental rather than 'special nice')
Raisins are good! Bow down and worship the humble raisin! Especially in a curry (and I KNOW I have supporters on this one!). Mixed raisins and nuts mmmmmm!
I'm trying to think of something that gets to me foodywise, but I think I only have mild annoyances rather than serious gripes (mayonnaise in anything, waiters who ask if you'd like black pepper or parmesan before you've even tasted the pasta dish put before you, and the people who say yes, food on my plate that is looking at me, cheese that doesn't melt, 'speciality menus' that are experimental rather than 'special nice')
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Phht! I'm easy, you don't need to get me drunk.DukkhaWaynhim wrote:Cail, seems pretty obvious to me - they just want to get you drunk.Cail wrote:I hate waiters that don't listen.
"Water with lemon" as often as not is interpreted as "Heineken".
"Tonic and lime" invariably ends up with vodka in it.
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With waiters???Cail wrote:Phht! I'm easy, you don't need to get me drunk.DukkhaWaynhim wrote:Cail, seems pretty obvious to me - they just want to get you drunk.Cail wrote:I hate waiters that don't listen.
"Water with lemon" as often as not is interpreted as "Heineken".
"Tonic and lime" invariably ends up with vodka in it.
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At a family gathering this weekend my sister made potato salad with the skins left on.
It was total chaos.
The police should have been called.
Somehow my sister barely survived my onslaught of verbal cooking abuse.
It was total chaos.
The police should have been called.
Somehow my sister barely survived my onslaught of verbal cooking abuse.
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If they're hot, sure.Menolly wrote:With waiters???Cail wrote:Phht! I'm easy, you don't need to get me drunk.DukkhaWaynhim wrote: Cail, seems pretty obvious to me - they just want to get you drunk.
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they make plastic knives for cutting lettuce. i have worked in restaurants that use. wish i had taken one from one them.Menolly wrote:I think I know the answer to this one...aliantha wrote:Why oh why can't restaurants serve bite-size pieces of lettuce in their salads? I *hate* having to take a knife to a salad....
Back in the day, before stainless steel knives, knives used on lettuce tended to turn the edges of the lettuce an unappetizing black. So the tradition of hand tearing the lettuce began. Chef training is full of "traditions." Apparently hand tearing lettuce is one that is living on beyond technical advances that make it obsolete.
I think even if a knife or kitchen shears are used to cut the lettuce, the pieces are left large to give the appearance of having been hand torn.
Any of our classically trained chefs around to confirm if this is the case?
i never peel potatoes. all the vitamins are in the peel. the leftover is just starch.
i hate mayo and when i do need to use it - i just barely do. but the world seems to need gloppings of it.
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I'm right with you there! I saw it in Australia the first time. I was shocked. But it was only in the shabby places. The high class joints knew what their dish was supposed to contain before they put it on the table. I think it is some kind of misunderstood form of "service" to make people feel like they are actually getting any; hence increasing the likelihood of tips.Stone wrote:waiters who ask if you'd like black pepper or parmesan before you've even tasted the pasta dish put before you
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I've seen those for sale at Safeway, Sarge.sgt.null wrote:they make plastic knives for cutting lettuce. i have worked in restaurants that use. wish i had taken one from one them.
I know that there's a time factor involved in meal prep in a restaurant kitchen, but I can't believe it would make all *that* much difference to the bottom line to let the prep person take another whack or two at a lettuce head....
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i want one for free. i am cheap.CovenantJr wrote:They're easy enough to buy. We've got one.sgt.null wrote:they make plastic knives for cutting lettuce. i have worked in restaurants that use. wish i had taken one from one them.
ali - depends on how long the restaurant will keep the lettuce around.
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But see, these plastic knives are unneccesary. Stainless steel knives will not discolor lettuce, as far as I know. It was the steels before stainless that turned the edges of the leaf color.
...right???
...where's Av when I need him...
I mean, when I go to a Mexican place that uses shredded lettuce, the lettuce is almost always shredded with a stainless steel blade on a slicer. And the edges don't turn brown...
...right???
...where's Av when I need him...
I mean, when I go to a Mexican place that uses shredded lettuce, the lettuce is almost always shredded with a stainless steel blade on a slicer. And the edges don't turn brown...
Theory:
Actually, according to Alton Brown, when you cut lettuce (with anything) the cellular membrane is opened and this begins the oxidation process, turning your lettuce brown. (Some say that it has to do with releasing ascorbic acid oxidase which destroys vitamin C.) On the other hand, tearing the lettuce allows the pieces to break along the cellular walls (think of tearing a sheet of bubble wrap), which delays any oxidation.
Practice:
If I am making a salad with a dark-colored green and I intend to serve it within 15 or so minutes, I will happily chop away with my stainless steel santoku knife. Otherwise, I buy field greens which do not need chopping at all. I find iceberg lettuce as tasteless (and as void in nutrition) as cardboard.
Actually, according to Alton Brown, when you cut lettuce (with anything) the cellular membrane is opened and this begins the oxidation process, turning your lettuce brown. (Some say that it has to do with releasing ascorbic acid oxidase which destroys vitamin C.) On the other hand, tearing the lettuce allows the pieces to break along the cellular walls (think of tearing a sheet of bubble wrap), which delays any oxidation.
Practice:
If I am making a salad with a dark-colored green and I intend to serve it within 15 or so minutes, I will happily chop away with my stainless steel santoku knife. Otherwise, I buy field greens which do not need chopping at all. I find iceberg lettuce as tasteless (and as void in nutrition) as cardboard.
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Ah...that is good to know.Wyldewode wrote:Theory:
Actually, according to Alton Brown, when you cut lettuce (with anything) the cellular membrane is opened and this begins the oxidation process, turning your lettuce brown. (Some say that it has to do with releasing ascorbic acid oxidase which destroys vitamin C.) On the other hand, tearing the lettuce allows the pieces to break along the cellular walls (think of tearing a sheet of bubble wrap), which delays any oxidation.
Thanks, ~Lyr.
I mostly agree with this. However, I haven't found another lettuce, even most heart of romain, that gives the same crunch as iceberg. And I find I really do miss that crunch when iceberg is completely left out of most salads.Wyldewode wrote:Practice:
If I am making a salad with a dark-colored green and I intend to serve it within 15 or so minutes, I will happily chop away with my stainless steel santoku knife. Otherwise, I buy field greens which do not need chopping at all. I find iceberg lettuce as tasteless (and as void in nutrition) as cardboard.
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I agree! I can't do popcorn. The fact that I worked in a movie theatre for a year may have something to do with this, but still, I can't stand the taste. I love the way it smells, but can't stomach it, and hate it when a piece of shell gets stuck!High Lord Tolkien wrote:Popcorn usually pisses me off.
I love it.
Buttery salty goodness.
But it never fails that I get a piece of shell jammed between two teeth so that it feels like I broke a tooth or a piece lodged into the roof of my mouth which I can feel for the next hour or so.
Also: Why is it that all the veggie burgers on the market are made to taste like real meat? I don't eat red meat mostly because I don't like the taste. Why is it necessary to make the burgers made out of veggies taste like that nasty meat?! Why can't we make veggie burgers taste like veggies? Why ruin perfectly good veggies?
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Magickmaker, I think that there is a kind of popcorn that is called "Japanese Hull-less." It purports to have a very soft outer skin of the kernel (the part that always get stuck in your teeth). My parents used to grow it in their garden, and it was cool, because we would pop the corn right on the cob.
And Menolly, I will eat iceberg on things, but when I'm making a salad I like romaine. The pale part of the leaf base is pretty crunchy and adds to texture of the salad. The field greens are very tender, but I like that I don't have to put forth any more effort than to put a handful in my bowl.
And Menolly, I will eat iceberg on things, but when I'm making a salad I like romaine. The pale part of the leaf base is pretty crunchy and adds to texture of the salad. The field greens are very tender, but I like that I don't have to put forth any more effort than to put a handful in my bowl.
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I used to work with a guy who said popcorn was the only snack food that advertised itself.wayfriend wrote:I hate popcorn because it smells so good you have to eat it and then you eat it and then you say "that sucked." But when you smell it the next time ...
I like it, but I don't eat it as much as I used to. Too much fat in most of the microwave stuff. You can get the 94% fat-free packs, but you don't get a crapload in the box like you do with the regular kind, and they cost more. (Imagine that! )
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