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Alice in Chains
"It is not the literal past that rules us, save, possibly, in a biological sense. It is images of the past. Each new historical era mirrors itself in the picture and active mythology of its past or of a past borrowed from other cultures. It tests its sense of identity, of regress or new achievement against that past.”
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Interesting. I had plans to see them in Baltimore in '06 prior to my ex going batshit insane. Yeah, this guy is good. Can't wait to hear the new album.
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Amen! Why does new music suck so bad? I don't want to sound like my grandfather, but crap, why don't we even have music at least as good as the 90s? Can we blame mp3s? Illegal downloading? I don't get it. I'm not completely a classic rock kind of guy. I love Soundgarden. I liked the grunge movement. But damn, that stuff is now 10+ years old!!! I really want to have some new music I can enjoy, but I keep going back to Rush and Tool because they are the only bands still making music I can stand.danlo wrote:--probably miles better than most of the crap out there...
Here's hoping this doesn't suck!
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What have they taken all the fun out of creativity and heroin addiction? Even though I love a lot of Disturbed, if they're the best out there than we're really in trouble...
...don't worry the revolution's coming, we always get better music in times of unrest (it's sorta like the fact that I can only write poetry when I'm three steps from the street, and trying like hell just to survive...
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...don't worry the revolution's coming, we always get better music in times of unrest (it's sorta like the fact that I can only write poetry when I'm three steps from the street, and trying like hell just to survive...
).fall far and well Pilots!
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Single out on aliceinchains.com (will send a dl link to your email) or on their myspace page.
I've given it three plays so far (four while writing this). The feel is definitely AiC. I'd put it somewhere between Dirt and Tripod with a heavy dose of Cantrell's 'solo' stuff. The sound might be a little too slick for its own good. I can't really weigh in on it without hearing the rest of the album (I could say the same of some of the tracks off of Tripod, but it ended up giving a more cohesive feel to the album).
The big question is the vocals. I'm impressed. He's not Layne, and he's not really trying to be, though there is an obvious effort (appreciated by this fan) to keep it sounding like AiC, thus sounding something like him. The guy's got talent, and I think he'll bring something the Cantrell albums lacked. The harmonies are pure Cantrell, though.
I don't think I've looked forward to an album this much in a long, long time.
I've given it three plays so far (four while writing this). The feel is definitely AiC. I'd put it somewhere between Dirt and Tripod with a heavy dose of Cantrell's 'solo' stuff. The sound might be a little too slick for its own good. I can't really weigh in on it without hearing the rest of the album (I could say the same of some of the tracks off of Tripod, but it ended up giving a more cohesive feel to the album).
The big question is the vocals. I'm impressed. He's not Layne, and he's not really trying to be, though there is an obvious effort (appreciated by this fan) to keep it sounding like AiC, thus sounding something like him. The guy's got talent, and I think he'll bring something the Cantrell albums lacked. The harmonies are pure Cantrell, though.
I don't think I've looked forward to an album this much in a long, long time.
"It is not the literal past that rules us, save, possibly, in a biological sense. It is images of the past. Each new historical era mirrors itself in the picture and active mythology of its past or of a past borrowed from other cultures. It tests its sense of identity, of regress or new achievement against that past.”
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The album's out now. I've only had a chance to listen to it once, and my attention was barely on it, but I like it.
"It is not the literal past that rules us, save, possibly, in a biological sense. It is images of the past. Each new historical era mirrors itself in the picture and active mythology of its past or of a past borrowed from other cultures. It tests its sense of identity, of regress or new achievement against that past.”
-George Steiner
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Heard a new song today.....very, very good.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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There are plenty, the studio system is just in it's death throws and spewing out mountains of crap. There are bands out there doing massively awesome things that never leave the underground. (Or the shores of the Atlantic. Compare the UK top 40 to America's today, there is rarely any intersection.)Malik23 wrote:Amen! Why does new music suck so bad? I don't want to sound like my grandfather, but crap, why don't we even have music at least as good as the 90s? Can we blame mp3s? Illegal downloading? I don't get it. I'm not completely a classic rock kind of guy. I love Soundgarden. I liked the grunge movement. But damn, that stuff is now 10+ years old!!! I really want to have some new music I can enjoy, but I keep going back to Rush and Tool because they are the only bands still making music I can stand.danlo wrote:--probably miles better than most of the crap out there...
Here's hoping this doesn't suck!
Maybe it's a sign your getting old? When you start thinking everything new sucks. I hardly hate the classics. (My most heavily played albums in the past month are probably David Bowie's Scary Monsters, The Clash's London Calling, Mastadon's Leviathan, and Modest Mouse's The Moon and Antarctica. Old and New...
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Well, I am getting older (37 and counting). 
But I *want* to like new stuff. I did say I like Rush and Tool's new music.
I just listened to Check My Brain. Pretty monotonous. I like the sound, and yes it does sound like AIC. But I hope the rest is better.
I'm open to anything (except rap and country). I'm starving for new music. Any recommendations? I want to be blown away by a new band. That hasn't happened in a long, long time.
[Edit: actually, Tenacious D has been my biggest surprise this century.]
But I *want* to like new stuff. I did say I like Rush and Tool's new music. I just listened to Check My Brain. Pretty monotonous. I like the sound, and yes it does sound like AIC. But I hope the rest is better.
I'm open to anything (except rap and country). I'm starving for new music. Any recommendations? I want to be blown away by a new band. That hasn't happened in a long, long time.
[Edit: actually, Tenacious D has been my biggest surprise this century.]
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Alice in Chains is one of my favorites. I still like to hear them. I thought they went downhill when Lane got off the heroin tho. Oddly enough, I don't like the rooster. I liked NIN at about the same time I listened to a lot of Alice and I don't like NIN anymore. I have a feeling I won't be a huge fan of the new stuff, but here's to hoping I'm wrong.
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I suppose you could say that.Harbinger wrote:I thought they went downhill when Lane got off the heroin tho.
"It is not the literal past that rules us, save, possibly, in a biological sense. It is images of the past. Each new historical era mirrors itself in the picture and active mythology of its past or of a past borrowed from other cultures. It tests its sense of identity, of regress or new achievement against that past.”
-George Steiner
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Well, you haven't given me much to go on but If I were going to mix Tool and Rush I might come out with something like Porcupine Tree, a prog band with some harder tendencies. Try either their "Deadwing" Album or "In Absentia". They certainly aren't a new band but hopefully they'll be new to you.Malik wrote:I'm open to anything (except rap and country). I'm starving for new music. Any recommendations? I want to be blown away by a new band. That hasn't happened in a long, long time.
I like to think of myself as a new music afficianado. Give me some other stuff you like and I'll try to come up with a few more recommendations.
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Brinn, The Dreaming gave me some recommendations that I'll try out, but I can always use more.
I like jazz fusion and prog rock. King Crimson, Bela Fleck and Flecktones, Yes, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Spock's Beard, Allen Holdsworth, Dixie Dregs, etc.
But I also like classic rock. Led Zep, Kansas, Beatles, Van Halen, Pink Floyd, etc. You can throw some "grundge" in there too . . . Soundgarden and AIC, STP.
I love Rush because their 35 year career spans so many different styles. I can pop in a Rush CD if I'm in the mood for 70s, 80s, 90s, or 00s music. I've never heard a band evolve as much as they have.
I like jazz fusion and prog rock. King Crimson, Bela Fleck and Flecktones, Yes, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Spock's Beard, Allen Holdsworth, Dixie Dregs, etc.
But I also like classic rock. Led Zep, Kansas, Beatles, Van Halen, Pink Floyd, etc. You can throw some "grundge" in there too . . . Soundgarden and AIC, STP.
I love Rush because their 35 year career spans so many different styles. I can pop in a Rush CD if I'm in the mood for 70s, 80s, 90s, or 00s music. I've never heard a band evolve as much as they have.
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"Fear of a Blank Planet" is exceptional. My dad is a huge fan of this band. I'm kind of back/forth with them. Sometimes it seems like Wilson is trying to sound like too many things, but being a fan of prog, I can't dislike ambition.Brinn wrote:Well, you haven't given me much to go on but If I were going to mix Tool and Rush I might come out with something like Porcupine Tree, a prog band with some harder tendencies. Try either their "Deadwing" Album or "In Absentia". They certainly aren't a new band but hopefully they'll be new to you.Malik wrote:I'm open to anything (except rap and country). I'm starving for new music. Any recommendations? I want to be blown away by a new band. That hasn't happened in a long, long time.
I like to think of myself as a new music afficianado. Give me some other stuff you like and I'll try to come up with a few more recommendations.
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In this increasingly off-topic discussion . . . I heard that Alex Lifeson played on the latest Porcupine Tree release. That might be the next one I try.
This discussion got me thinking about Dixie Dregs again. If you love prog, and you haven't given them a try, you're missing out on a distinctively American prog rock band. Definitely some southern influence in Steve Morse's sound.
And DD fans? (The band, not the bra size. )
Variety is nice, unless it doesn't sound authentic. If it just sounds like a hodge-podge of all the artists' influences, then this can get tiresome. Dream Theater, for instance, has never grabbed me because they don't seem to have a sound all their own. Or maybe I just didn't like their songs. Or maybe I haven't given them enough of a chance.Sometimes it seems like Wilson is trying to sound like too many things, but being a fan of prog, I can't dislike ambition.
This discussion got me thinking about Dixie Dregs again. If you love prog, and you haven't given them a try, you're missing out on a distinctively American prog rock band. Definitely some southern influence in Steve Morse's sound.
And DD fans? (The band, not the bra size.
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It's funny, listening to The Boneyard last night and "Pull Me Under" came on. To me, it's a rote example of how to make that kind of music. Spacey keyboards? Check. Nebulous lyrics? Check. Stuttering drums and guitars? Check. Needless time changes? You betcha.
It's like someone went to the mall and visited the "Build a Prog-Metal Song Workshop".
It's like someone went to the mall and visited the "Build a Prog-Metal Song Workshop".
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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Thank God you put the Beatles in there, Malik..otherwise I would think we share the same music brain...heh..I'm going to put on "Metal Fatique" right now, as background for posting...you've inspired me.Malik23 wrote: I like jazz fusion and prog rock. King Crimson, Bela Fleck and Flecktones, Yes, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Spock's Beard, Allen Holdsworth, Dixie Dregs, etc.
But I also like classic rock. Led Zep, Kansas, Beatles, Van Halen, Pink Floyd, etc. You can throw some "grundge" in there too . . . Soundgarden and AIC, STP.
I love Rush because their 35 year career spans so many different styles. I can pop in a Rush CD if I'm in the mood for 70s, 80s, 90s, or 00s music. I've never heard a band evolve as much as they have.
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the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.