Was Lord Foul called Lord Foul while on the Council?

Post by **Dromond** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 2:53 pm

Furls Fire wrote:You know, SRD isn't one to just throw stuff in and then leave it. The more I think about the name of "Jeroth", the more I'm inclined to think that maybe it WAS Foul's name on the council.

The Raver of course would know what name Foul used. And the raver became the head of the Clave, and the Clave is what distorted history. So, I'm starting to doubt that they just pulled the name "Jeroth" out of a hat. I don't think SRD would either.

I would love to see this theory proved correct, as it is quite logical. But I just don't think the information is there, in TCTC. (imo)

Post by **Furls Fire** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 2:59 pm

hehe..nope..it's not..just a wild guess on my part

Post by **Fist and Faith** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 3:12 pm

That's where my money is.

Post by **Forestal** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 3:26 pm

yep, i'm quite happy to settle with Jeroth... not literally u understand...

Post by **I'm Murrin** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 4:17 pm

I've always been pretty sure that the only reason that he is called Lord Foul in the chrons is because that was the name he took when he infiltrated the council. I assumed that the despiser was never called Lord Foul until after Foul's Betrayal.

Post by **Cloudberry** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:25 pm

Murrin wrote:I've always been pretty sure that the only reason that he is called Lord Foul in the chrons is because that was the name he took when he infiltrated the council. I assumed that the despiser was never called Lord Foul until after Foul's Betrayal.

Would he really go around calling himself Lord Foul? I very much doubt it. I don't have any evidence, it's just that it doesn't seem right.

"Hi Kevin! I'm Foul and I would like to be a lord in your council".

And if his first name is Foul what is his last name then?

But I agree that the despiser couldn't have been called Lord Foul until after the betrayal. No one could know that Lord Foul (or Lord Dave or whatever his name was) actually was the despiser.

If this was a poll I would vote for Lord Jeroth. Jeroth would be his taken name, it's suitable especially because of a-Jeroth in the second chrons.

But does he have a real name? And in that case, does the creator have a real name too? I don't know.

Post by **Lord Mhoram** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 8:08 pm

You know...a while ago a thought occured to me: maybe I should change my name from Lord Mhoram to Lord Dave...

Hey it'd work.

Post by **UrLord** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 1:34 am

I always thought that they named him "Lord Foul" after the betrayal just because he was a Lord and, well...foul. They probably debated for a long time what to call him...

"Lord Sinister?"
"no..."
"Lord Evil?"
"don't like it..."
"Lord Meanie?"
"not strong enough"
"Lord Diabolical?"
"too melodramatic..."
"Lord Foul?"
"Bingo!"

Post by **Forestal** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 1:37 am

oh dear god thats funny....

Post by **Cloudberry** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 11:06 am

Just picture it: Lord Meanie's Bane... With Drool as his faithful side-kick.

Remember when Covenant asks for his name? "I have had many names, it said. To the Lords of Revelstone, I am Lord Meanie the Despiser." Oh, that's scary...

Post by **aTOMiC** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 11:16 am

I'm guessing Foul went by a high sounding respectful name. Lord Aquilian. Lord Trothladine. Lord Sornadrill. Something that would engender trust and acceptance instead of breeding suspicion like Lord Imgonnagetcha, Lord Watchyourbackkevin, Lord Youguysaredoomed. Stuff like that.

Post by **Skyweir** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 3:26 pm

or Lord Smeg-head

Post by **aTOMiC** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 3:52 pm

Lord Imreallyabadguy, Lord Donttrustmeimevil, Lord Helpmeidobadthings.

Post by **Skyweir** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 5:14 pm

you know i often wondered just how Lord Foul could have engraciated himself into the Council of Lords?

he must be quite a silver tongue .. but boy you just dont pick that up from when TC met him ..

Post by **danlo** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 6:36 pm

Murrin: on my same thread where I proposed Jeroth, I also noted that the Chrons clearly say the Lord Foul is a term the Council of Lords used meaning: Enemy of the Land, which indicates that he had a different name as a serving Lord of Kevin.

Post by **Ylva Kresh** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:09 pm

First name: Lord
Surname: Foul

That would of course make him Lord Lord if he ever became one.

Post by **aTOMiC** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:46 pm

danlo wrote:Murrin: on my same thread where I proposed Jeroth, I also noted that the Chrons clearly say the Lord Foul is a term the Council of Lords used meaning: Enemy of the Land, which indicates that he had a different name as a serving Lord of Kevin.

Given that no other formal name beyond that of an openly derogatory nature has been offered within the text of the Chrons. I have to concede Jeroth is the only example that can be applied from the context of the story. Perhaps the 3rd Chrons. will shed some light on the matter. I have enjoyed reading the speculation.

Post by **Landwaster** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 1:24 am

... of the seven hells, don't forget!

Post by **danlo** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 2:16 am

"We shall never forget!" Winston Churchill

Post by **[Syl]** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 3:04 pm

It's a typo. He was originally Lord Oluf. Over the years, it just became accepted practice to call him Lord Foul. Kind of like how we call it the Red Sea.

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Was Lord Foul called Lord Foul while on the Council?