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On the plus side, Cain is apparently going to be played by Michelle Forbes (Ensign Ro on Star Trek TNG). I always like her, and was kinda hoping when talks about the 4th series (Which turned out to be Enterprise) were still in their young stage, I was hoping the 4th series would be Maquis based with Ensign Ro as a regular
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This is gonna be so cool!!!!!
Remember the scene in the original when Baltar is watching the Galactica getting creamed? One of the Centurions tries to tell him something, and he shushes it. And in its monodrone, metallic voice, it says, "But sir, I really think you should take a look at the other Battlestar."
Remember the scene in the original when Baltar is watching the Galactica getting creamed? One of the Centurions tries to tell him something, and he shushes it. And in its monodrone, metallic voice, it says, "But sir, I really think you should take a look at the other Battlestar."
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That was hands-down the best episode in the old series. "Living Legend", wasn't it?
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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Oh man, I absolutely love the space battles with no sound effects!!! 
Actually, I get annoyed when they do throw in some sound effects. It's amazing to see a Viper launch silently, but then I'm always disappointed when they throw in a roar a few seconds later.
Actually, I get annoyed when they do throw in some sound effects. It's amazing to see a Viper launch silently, but then I'm always disappointed when they throw in a roar a few seconds later.All lies and jest
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They get the explosions right, too, so it's all good in my book (I always take the slight noise to be the sound from inside the cabin... *shrug*)
What really gets me, though, is they have all the military minutiae right. Like setting Condition 3, all of that. The salutes are kind of off sometimes, and I still haven't figured out how a commander outranks a colonel, but other than that...
What really gets me, though, is they have all the military minutiae right. Like setting Condition 3, all of that. The salutes are kind of off sometimes, and I still haven't figured out how a commander outranks a colonel, but other than that...
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For some reason there is a blend of military ranks - there shouldn't be a colonel on a naval vessel (not that I'm telling you anything you don't already know, Syl.)The salutes are kind of off sometimes, and I still haven't figured out how a commander outranks a colonel,
It kinda bugs me that they are using projectile weapons also.
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Yeah, with Chiefs, Sgts, Petty Officers (yeah!... though the only two I've seen are women), and so forth. Perhaps Commander refers to commander of a battlestar (say, how Commander of the Pacific Fleet is an admiral), but it seems to be used like a rank.
Dunno about the projectiles, though. I mean, we still haven't figured out anything that would be an efficient means of delivering large amounts of energy. Pretty sure their small arms are at least coil guns, though. There's no muzzle flash, smoke, or anything. And I wouldn't be surprised if their crew served weapons were more along the lines of rail guns.
Dunno about the projectiles, though. I mean, we still haven't figured out anything that would be an efficient means of delivering large amounts of energy. Pretty sure their small arms are at least coil guns, though. There's no muzzle flash, smoke, or anything. And I wouldn't be surprised if their crew served weapons were more along the lines of rail guns.
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Well, there goes my theory on their small arms. Definately shells, casings, muzzle flash and smoke, etc.
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The projectile weapons struck me as being a bit odd too. I keep half expecting them to make a jump and immediately get shot by the bullets they fired a few episodes back. Maybe they're set to detonate after a certain period of time, but it really isn't a good idea to fill space with thousands of flying bullets. I'm not so bothered by their hand guns (which sound a lot like the good ol' MagSec 4 from Perfect Dark), as we've seen Galactica's hull absorb the impact of a tactical nuke already. Still, they take them aboard the other ships. I guess they didn't want to look too much like Star Trek or Babylon 5.
What really did stick in my craw was the episode where Tom Zarek was introduced and they sent Starbuck over to play sniper. I find it impossible to believe that the fleets best pilot just happens to be the best sharpshooter too. They could have had her accompany a marine sniper, who gets whacked on the head or something. Would have made a bit more sense.
What really did stick in my craw was the episode where Tom Zarek was introduced and they sent Starbuck over to play sniper. I find it impossible to believe that the fleets best pilot just happens to be the best sharpshooter too. They could have had her accompany a marine sniper, who gets whacked on the head or something. Would have made a bit more sense.
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Oh my god that was intense!! The Cylon parts really made the show!!! First time we've ever seen Baltar's mind-Cylon with shock or horror on her face. That was great!! But what must they have done to HER (that is, her clone), of all characters, to reduce her to that state! Best not to know. And then there's Sharon's near-fate.
I've touched on this in other forums, and here it is now. What the Cylons did is certainly unforgivable, and I can understand people wanting revenge. But treating them like that does little more than show the Pegasus crew to be sadistic animals.
I'll tell you, Caine's an idiot!! She's still concerned with nothing but military protocol/chain of command/all that. So she'll literally go to war with the only other surviving humans? Forget about right & wrong! Humanity has a better chance with two Battlestars, even if they go their separate ways and never see each other again, than with what's left of them after they fight each other. If the only other military ship in existence decides the military structure will be different, then it will be different!
I've touched on this in other forums, and here it is now. What the Cylons did is certainly unforgivable, and I can understand people wanting revenge. But treating them like that does little more than show the Pegasus crew to be sadistic animals.
I'll tell you, Caine's an idiot!! She's still concerned with nothing but military protocol/chain of command/all that. So she'll literally go to war with the only other surviving humans? Forget about right & wrong! Humanity has a better chance with two Battlestars, even if they go their separate ways and never see each other again, than with what's left of them after they fight each other. If the only other military ship in existence decides the military structure will be different, then it will be different!
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I thought it was interesting and bizarre at the same time.
It was interesting seeing how Starbuck got instantly shutdown as soon as she spoke out at the meeting.
And how Apollo was treated.
The politics behind the fleet and Cain wasn't touched on though.
It was weird.
Cain doesn't seem to care that the last of humanity in the fleet.
I also wonder if she's going to continue to find Earth.
I bet not.
It was interesting seeing how Starbuck got instantly shutdown as soon as she spoke out at the meeting.
And how Apollo was treated.
The politics behind the fleet and Cain wasn't touched on though.
It was weird.
Cain doesn't seem to care that the last of humanity in the fleet.
I also wonder if she's going to continue to find Earth.
I bet not.
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I really need to start recording this show. I'm lost in the storyline, but man, what a good episode last night. I'll have to check and see when Sci-Fi reruns the whole season so I can catch up.
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I wonder just how psychotic Cain and the Pegasus crew will be revealed to be. It seems quite a bit. The fate of Cain's former XO (sp?), their joy in torture, Cain's complete lack of concern for the civilian fleet... Seems like a ship of the damned, or a ghost ship, or something.
In TOS, there was a moment when the Pegasus crew was criticizing the Galactica for not being more aggressive against the Cylons, citing some of their own raids/military victories. The Galactica crew pointed out that the Pegasus was unburdened by a large, ragtag fleet of non-military ships, filled with people who needed protection. That was a good moment.
In TOS, there was a moment when the Pegasus crew was criticizing the Galactica for not being more aggressive against the Cylons, citing some of their own raids/military victories. The Galactica crew pointed out that the Pegasus was unburdened by a large, ragtag fleet of non-military ships, filled with people who needed protection. That was a good moment.
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Still a man hears what he wants to hear
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