Is Thomas Covenant like Abraham Lincoln?

Post by **LaRocca** » Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:59 am

I'm just asking the question. What do you think?

Post by **peter** » Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:09 pm

Mmmmm.........Yes! (I was going to ask Iarocca, whether you meant pysically, ideologically, emotionaly or what - but then I realised that Abe seemed a pretty good fit on all counts so - pop - the answer was there, no need for the question.

Post by **LaRocca** » Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:28 pm

Peter, I have JUST read the part of The One Tree where your SIG comes from. Damn, that's cool.

I was thinking of the tortured soul aspect, but then it occurred to me that, just like your email says, all aspects. Right down to tall and gaunt. Freak out.

Now I might research how to put capital letters in my user name

Post by **Relayer** » Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:50 pm

No. Abe never shaved his beard

Seriously, if you mean sticking to one's ideals, or standing for what you believe in, then yea I could see it.

Post by **LaRocca** » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:01 pm

Yep, that's what I meant. Abraham Lincoln built a log cabin at Haven Farm before he was even born and...

Oh, wait. Torn, tortured, driven by inherent goodness and sticking to one's ideals.

Nah, I never met Honest Abe personally, but that's okay because I never met Thomas Covenant personally either.

Post by **DrPaul** » Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:59 pm

Perhaps it was a consequence of coming across the Chronicles in the early 1980s, but I've always had this mental image of Covenant as being a bit like David Byrne from Talking Heads.

Post by **LaRocca** » Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:23 am

I just looked at some photos of David Byrne. That could work.

Maybe we'll turn this into a "if it ever becomes a movie..." type thread. John Carradine isn't still alive, is he? (I know about David -- I live in Thailand.)

Post by **Relayer** » Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:48 am

DrPaul wrote:Perhaps it was a consequence of coming across the Chronicles in the early 1980s, but I've always had this mental image of Covenant as being a bit like David Byrne from Talking Heads.

"And you may tell yourself,
this is not my beautiful stonedown..."

Post by **Vraith** » Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:05 pm

Relayer wrote:
DrPaul wrote:Perhaps it was a consequence of coming across the Chronicles in the early 1980s, but I've always had this mental image of Covenant as being a bit like David Byrne from Talking Heads.
"And you may tell yourself,
this is not my beautiful stonedown..."

Heh...my first thought was of "Life During Wartime" This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no foolin around.

But I gotta ask: Dr.P: he LOOKS like Byrne? Or behaves like him?

Post by **DrPaul** » Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:29 pm

Vraith wrote:
Relayer wrote:
DrPaul wrote:Perhaps it was a consequence of coming across the Chronicles in the early 1980s, but I've always had this mental image of Covenant as being a bit like David Byrne from Talking Heads.
"And you may tell yourself,
this is not my beautiful stonedown..."
Heh...my first thought was of "Life During Wartime" This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no foolin around.

But I gotta ask: Dr.P: he LOOKS like Byrne? Or behaves like him?

Really more that he looked like Byrne in my mental image, although without the Big Suit. How Byrne would behave in the Land is an interesting question ((perhaps performing "Burning Down the House" during a Ritual of Desecration?)

Post by **Vraith** » Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:34 am

Hmm....we're on to something...."Take me to the River" works in a few places.
[heh..don't know who wrote the thing...I know Foghat and Brian Ferry have recordings of it]

Post by **DrPaul** » Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:27 am

DrPaul wrote:
Vraith wrote:
Relayer wrote: "And you may tell yourself,
this is not my beautiful stonedown..."
Heh...my first thought was of "Life During Wartime" This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no foolin around.

But I gotta ask: Dr.P: he LOOKS like Byrne? Or behaves like him?
Really more that he looked like Byrne in my mental image, although without the Big Suit. How Byrne would behave in the Land is an interesting question (perhaps performing "Burning Down the House" during a Ritual of Desecration?)

Post by **sindatur** » Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:03 am

DrPaul wrote:
DrPaul wrote:
Vraith wrote: Heh...my first thought was of "Life During Wartime" This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no foolin around.

But I gotta ask: Dr.P: he LOOKS like Byrne? Or behaves like him?
Really more that he looked like Byrne in my mental image, although without the Big Suit. How Byrne would behave in the Land is an interesting question (perhaps performing "Burning Down the House" during a Ritual of Desecration?)

Almost, but actually, it would be perfect for Trell, Mhoram and the Close, IMHO.

I think a full blown RoD would need a more dark music track

Post by **LaRocca** » Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:22 am

I notice nobody's mentioned Billy Barty...

Post by **Relayer** » Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:00 pm

DrPaul wrote:(perhaps performing "Burning Down the House" during a Ritual of Desecration?)

I was actually thinking of Soaring Woodhelven for that...

Post by **ninjaboy** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:01 am

I can't reconcile Thomas Covenant with an American.. I know that he lives there, but I prefer to think of him as someone I like and respect.

Post by **Vraith** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:43 pm

ninjaboy wrote:I can't reconcile Thomas Covenant with an American.. I know that he lives there, but I prefer to think of him as someone I like and respect.

Heh...you just slapped and denigrated a whole bunch of people, even a whole bunch of Watchers...
Who are you, Mel Gibson?

Post by **Orlion** » Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:03 am

ninjaboy wrote:I can't reconcile Thomas Covenant with an American.. I know that he lives there, but I prefer to think of him as someone I like and respect.

Seems like a lot of people think so. I mean, look at who people want to play the part of Thomas Covenant in a movie! None other then a British guy (Hugh Laurie) who can do an American accent if he has to.

And it's cool, I don't have much respect for my either

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