Jesus to return May 21, 2011
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Jesus to return May 21, 2011
as according to these people:
www.freep.com/article/20101204/NEWS05/1 ... sus-return
Note that this thread is not a knock on Christianity or any other religion as such or in general. I do not know any Christians who are into this date setting stuff, and that is what I am trying to figure out.
I always wonder how and why people come up with these dates - especially when the Bible itself says no human knows that particular information.
Is it not better and more important to live your life the best you can than to spend your time worrying about such things as an exact date of the return of a religious figure?
I guess I have just never understood this aspect of religion/s. If Jesus returns that day or not, I have to keep living my life in the meantime. Even if he does return on that day - in what way should I spend/use/live my life differently in the next few months?
Even if I knew for a fact He is coming back on that specific day (or any other specific day for that matter) I really do not see any difference in my daily life in the meantime. I will still just keep muddling along, doing the best that I can one way or another.
www.freep.com/article/20101204/NEWS05/1 ... sus-return
Note that this thread is not a knock on Christianity or any other religion as such or in general. I do not know any Christians who are into this date setting stuff, and that is what I am trying to figure out.
I always wonder how and why people come up with these dates - especially when the Bible itself says no human knows that particular information.
Is it not better and more important to live your life the best you can than to spend your time worrying about such things as an exact date of the return of a religious figure?
I guess I have just never understood this aspect of religion/s. If Jesus returns that day or not, I have to keep living my life in the meantime. Even if he does return on that day - in what way should I spend/use/live my life differently in the next few months?
Even if I knew for a fact He is coming back on that specific day (or any other specific day for that matter) I really do not see any difference in my daily life in the meantime. I will still just keep muddling along, doing the best that I can one way or another.
Alas, most Christians (and I suspect this is true of most followers of any faith) don't really study their religion but follow someone else's ideas.
There is also among Fundamentalists what I can only call a sadistic lust for world-wide destruction, a longing for the Apocalypse where they get to watch all their enemies suffer unbearable torments.
There is also among Fundamentalists what I can only call a sadistic lust for world-wide destruction, a longing for the Apocalypse where they get to watch all their enemies suffer unbearable torments.
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It be there, I care not of the other great book Above.
Strike it out! Or, write it in anew. But
Let my name be in the Book of Love!" --Omar Khayam
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He's tried to come back several times but he keeps getting aborted.
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Then he should stay out of 14 year old virgins.High Lord Tolkien wrote:He's tried to come back several times but he keeps getting aborted.
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the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
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You guys are too funny.Vraith wrote:Then he should stay out of 14 year old virgins.High Lord Tolkien wrote:He's tried to come back several times but he keeps getting aborted.
For my part, if these guys are right, I'm gonna be p*ssed -- we'll never know how the Last Chrons ends!
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Nah we'll probably get to see the end of the Chronicles before we all get shipped off to our respective eternal afterlifes. If I remember correctly, he has to wage the final war against Satan and his minions. That should take at least a couple of years.
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Not just christian fundamentalists, but New Agers, UFO cultists, etc etc.danlo wrote:It's just disgusting fundamentalists trying to capitalize on the Mayan calendar..
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Yeah, that'd be kinda cool. And I'd be down at the Church to repent and convert like a shot
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What comes up for me is that these kinds of things are interesting, in the way that sensationalists and whackoes are interesting, but it is totally disconnected from traditional Christianity - and yet non-Christians link them with us in their minds.
It is precisely that it is NOT what anyone would have recognized as Christian 1500 years ago -and even the noise at the end of the first millennium was out of synch with Church teachings (what was then a mostly united Church, pre-schism). Even most Protestants - who are the most individualist of Christians - insist that Scriptural teaching that we cannot know the date and time is true.
But of course the whackoes get all the press, and provide much of the justification for people to not be Christians - even though the whackoes are not terribly Christian - if they followed Christ, then they would listen to His words.
That's probably the only thing worth commenting on, although it seems pretty obvious to me. It is about wanting to manipulate - or push events - bring apocalypse about by wishful thinking. Not so different from people wanting to manipulate events by science or magic. They grasp on to a true idea - that we are mortal, and need to "seize the day" in order to repent, and stop living our lives as if they were only "rough drafts", and then corrupt it by putting their own timelines and spins onto things.I do not know any Christians who are into this date setting stuff, and that is what I am trying to figure out.
It is precisely that it is NOT what anyone would have recognized as Christian 1500 years ago -and even the noise at the end of the first millennium was out of synch with Church teachings (what was then a mostly united Church, pre-schism). Even most Protestants - who are the most individualist of Christians - insist that Scriptural teaching that we cannot know the date and time is true.
But of course the whackoes get all the press, and provide much of the justification for people to not be Christians - even though the whackoes are not terribly Christian - if they followed Christ, then they would listen to His words.
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A person can be wise and of strong convictions, or foolish and of strong convictions. It depends on what the objective truth external to that person is.
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aliantha,
Hey you think you've got it bad the three series I'm most hipped on are A Song of Ice and Fire, The Kingkiller Chronicles, and the Gentleman Bastard's series. I will not even get close to seeing them end.aliantha wrote:You guys are too funny.Vraith wrote:Then he should stay out of 14 year old virgins.High Lord Tolkien wrote:He's tried to come back several times but he keeps getting aborted.
For my part, if these guys are right, I'm gonna be p*ssed -- we'll never know how the Last Chrons ends!
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I hate to break this to you, but I think you're screwed no matter *when* the world ends.SerScot wrote:aliantha,
Hey you think you've got it bad the three series I'm most hipped on are A Song of Ice and Fire, The Kingkiller Chronicles, and the Gentleman Bastard's series. I will not even get close to seeing them end.aliantha wrote:You guys are too funny.Vraith wrote: Then he should stay out of 14 year old virgins.
For my part, if these guys are right, I'm gonna be p*ssed -- we'll never know how the Last Chrons ends!
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