KW: Karass or Granfalloon?

Post by **[Syl]** » Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:56 am

Reading about fictive kinship in my anthropology class (way too much reading for a 4 week class, by the way), I got to thinking. Is Kevin's Watch a karass?

Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:05 am

Well, it doesn't look like a granfalloon at least - that one is supposed to consist of people that have nothing really common in the spiritual way. But about God's will it's hard to say. How should we know?

Post by **Vraith** » Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:19 am

Dang, eff kinda beat me to it...I was gonna say don't know if we are Karass or not, but we're DEFINITELY more real/will-working than a bunch of "Hoosiers."

Post by **aliantha** » Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:31 am

Vraith wrote:we're DEFINITELY more real/will-working than a bunch of "Hoosiers."

Hey! I resemble that remark!

Indiana, our Indiana,
Indiana, we're all for you...

Post by **Savor Dam** » Sat Jul 09, 2011 4:36 am

I vonnegut involved in this discussion!

I do believe that we Watchers are a bona fide karass. The real question is which wampeter we are in the process of embracing and which we are becoming less accepting of. Does this relate to events in the Last Chronicles, or is the meaning even deeper than that?

Of course, I could be wrong and there could be no applicability of these concepts to Watch membership. However, I hope this is not the case, as that would make me most duprassed...

Post by **Worm of Despite** » Sat Jul 09, 2011 4:38 am

I think you're all a bunch of chickenheads, in the tradition of Philip K. Dick.

Post by **Savor Dam** » Sat Jul 09, 2011 4:43 am

Nah, Foul, the Dick's thread is entirely different...although potentially far more interesting to some Watchers.

Post by **sgt.null** » Sat Jul 09, 2011 5:20 am

i believe the watch's goal is to make each one of our lives a bit better. i don't have a formula to measure the amount this takes effect.

Sat Jul 09, 2011 4:19 pm

Savor Dam wrote:I vonnegut involved in this discussion!
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No wonder Pair o' Docks decided to chose you

Lord Foul wrote:I think you're all a bunch of chickenheads, in the tradition of Philip K. Dick.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioactive_Chickenheads Adding "radioactive" is not to take as going off-topic, since they said "We were forced to be named the Radioactive Chicken Heads because of new government regulations which require all radioactive farm products to be labeled clearly."

Post by **stonemaybe** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:59 am

Can a karass be of things rather than people?

If yes, I'd say KW is a karass of its individual forums. Each (sub-)forum is a karass of its regular posters.

But KW is a granfalloon of all its members.

YouTube · Post by **Menolly** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:38 pm

Effaeldm wrote:
Savor Dam wrote:I vonnegut involved in this discussion!
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No wonder Pair o' Docks decided to chose you

I don't know how s/he does it, but Plains of Ra totally rocks when it comes to learning the names of the Ranyhyn which chooses each Watcher. Took me a long time to find the source of my dear Irian's name, but once I did I came to realize she was meant to choose me even more than I knew before.

Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:09 am

Stonemaybe wrote:Can a karass be of things rather than people?

If yes, I'd say KW is a karass of its individual forums. Each (sub-)forum is a karass of its regular posters.

But KW is a granfalloon of all its members.

I wouldn't be fast to say a thing like that surely. Hard to put a finger on why, but the Watch doesn't feel like a granfalloon. It has something in the way of how people here behave and talk, like how some most generic forums and even topics get a tint of thoughtfulness and non-narrow view.

Menolly wrote:
Effaeldm wrote:
Savor Dam wrote:I vonnegut involved in this discussion!
...
No wonder Pair o' Docks decided to chose you

I don't know how s/he does it, but Plains of Ra totally rocks when it comes to learning the names of the Ranyhyn which chooses each Watcher. Took me a long time to find the source of my dear Irian's name, but once I did I came to realize she was meant to choose me even more than I knew before.

Yes, totally rocks is very good description, I have a problem to even find some words to explain how Jiyuu's name surprised me - it was some feeling like the Ranyhyn and the Plains of Ra really know or feel more about me than I said here ever, and moreover before that moment.

YouTube · Post by **Menolly** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:22 am

Effaeldm wrote:
Menolly wrote:
Effaeldm wrote: No wonder Pair o' Docks decided to chose you

I don't know how s/he does it, but Plains of Ra totally rocks when it comes to learning the names of the Ranyhyn which chooses each Watcher. Took me a long time to find the source of my dear Irian's name, but once I did I came to realize she was meant to choose me even more than I knew before.
Yes, totally rocks is very good description, I have a problem to even find some words to explain how Jiyuu's name surprised me - it was some feeling like the Ranyhyn and the Plains of Ra really know or feel more about me than I said here ever, and moreover before that moment.

Have you ever read any of the Earthsea books? In one of the collections of short stories, there is a scene where how one is given their "true" name is described. I don't know if learning the name of the Ranyhyn who will choose a Watcher is similar for Plains of Ra, but in my imagination, it is so.