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The noisy stuff

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As there's a 'The heavy stuff' thread, I thought I'd start one to cover the kind of music that some people might think of as noise. Maybe avant garde, music concrete, tape collages, guitar feedback, modular bleeps and bloops, etc.

Anyone into anything like that? It's kind of hard to explain to people what there is to like in something that is essentially dissonant noise with no discernible rhythm, but to me it's a pleasing experience.

Examples might be Ornette Coleman's 'Free Jazz', Pink Floyd's 'A Saucerful of Secrets', The Beatles 'Revolution 9', The Stooges 'L.A. Blues', etc.

Is it just noise? Is it music? Is it something of both?
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You mean something like the following?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv_bkS5VVaA
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I have that album, but it's more musical than what I was thinking of. John McLaughlin's guitar playing on that album probably falls into what I was thinking of though
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I love Birds of Fire! Awesome album. Definitely not noise.
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michaelm wrote:. John McLaughlin's guitar playing on that album probably falls into what I was thinking of though
Oh...he's a great player, one of the absolute best.
If that's [and saucer full of secrets] what you consider part of noisy, I'm on board for noisy.
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michaelm wrote:. John McLaughlin's guitar playing on that album probably falls into what I was thinking of though
Oh...he's a great player, one of the absolute best.
If that's [and saucer full of secrets] what you consider part of noisy, I'm on board for noisy.
I would say both fall at the more musical end of noisy though.

But agree that McLaughlin is an awesome player. Birds of Fire just sounds so messy on the surface, but it's far from random notes or anything like that.

For noise I was more thinking things like this:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFp73sqwNfU
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michaelm wrote: For noise I was more thinking things like this:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFp73sqwNfU
Yea, familiar with that one and a couple others you mentioned initially...
but it's not something I have much knowledge about/exposure to...
just random bits...mostly occasional experiments/forays by bands who
aren't really committed to the "genre." [and most of which would also qualify for the "heavy" thread.]
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Ornette Coleman made a hell of a noise sometimes:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bRTFr0ytA8

This album is great though. Once in a while I have to listen to it loud in the car! 8)
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do you mean this sort of thing - of which I actually like when in the mood.

Ion Dissonance - The Bud Dwyer Effect

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Yup. Lots of cool stuff is considered unmusical to many, but it's very cool music whether anyone thinks it's undeserving of that title or not.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... tnG6EHh1N4

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Never got into that, as much as I like noisy guitar drone stuff
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Does Sonic Youth count? Because they're awesome.

Also, old school Skinny Puppy rocks noisily.
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Wildling wrote:Does Sonic Youth count? Because they're awesome.
Oh hell yeah!
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Do the punk rock bands like X and Social Distortion count? 'Cause I like them and have made it a point to see them both live.

Does an old-time album like Blue Cheer's Vincebus Eruptum fit in here? 'Cause that kind of noise stresses my speakers to the limit when I turn it up.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABVXW5uEj1w

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