And the more that Joe Biden talks, the more that becomes apparent.sgt.null wrote:Well Democrats are used to blacks and the unborn being property, having no inherent agency.
What will it take to change attitudes towards abortion?
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Please point out where he said anything of the sort.Skyweir wrote:yet you act as if womens bodies were your property or the property of the state ... go figuresgt.null wrote:Well Democrats are used to blacks and the unborn being property, having no inherent agency.
Your petty insults only make you look small. Make a cogent argument maybe?
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Never said that. Please show me where I did.Skyweir wrote:yet you act as if womens bodies were your property or the property of the state ... go figuresgt.null wrote:Well Democrats are used to blacks and the unborn being property, having no inherent agency.
Maybe instead of killing the unborn we could simply ask women to be responsible and use birth control?
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You guys are soooo literal lol
The very point that you are arguing against a woman choice is indicative of this position.
Further the fact that I noted that surely some middle ground may assist a more egalitarian position going forward .. and it was summarily dismissed as irrelevant .. also is indicative that you consider a womens autonomy irrelevant.
Do you have any other input to present that would indicate that you are in fact supportive of a womens right to control what happens to her own body?
The very point that you are arguing against a woman choice is indicative of this position.
Further the fact that I noted that surely some middle ground may assist a more egalitarian position going forward .. and it was summarily dismissed as irrelevant .. also is indicative that you consider a womens autonomy irrelevant.
Do you have any other input to present that would indicate that you are in fact supportive of a womens right to control what happens to her own body?
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"I can't prove what I said, so I'll attack the questioners and laugh it off. I'm so smart!"Skyweir wrote:You guys are soooo literal lol
There's a whole thread here about ensuring that women have agency and how they should be able to make their own choices. Ending their child's life unilaterally is not a valid choice.
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That has been my position on this issue from Day One. If people cannot be bothered to spend $30 for a box of condoms and a tube of spermicidal foam then they should not be engaging in sexual activity.sgt.null wrote:Maybe instead of killing the unborn we could simply ask women to be responsible and use birth control?
We still have a lot of abortions, Sarge, because far too many people are irresponsible. Sadly, we cannot enforce responsbility.
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I think male sterilisation is the way forward
I think as most males of the species are fertile 24/7 they should take responsibility for fertility .. either take sperm control pills or get vasectomies
We should be targeting the problem no?
Well it all helps - especially if we all work together
Ive mentioned many times before that I am not pro abortion, and would far prefer people to be responsible. Its called consequences .. and Ive always taken responsibility for mine
But as I said upthread .. I understand there are exceptions and I have zero support for militancy or militant one size fits all solutions. Why? Cuz they are inflexible and ineffective for the most part.
I did however like the article Wosa shared over the page that talked about taking a more collaborative and less adversarial approach to the issue of abortion.
Again its about that age old chestnut .. that sadly so few ever truly effectively master ..
But definitely worth giving a red hot crack
I think as most males of the species are fertile 24/7 they should take responsibility for fertility .. either take sperm control pills or get vasectomies
We should be targeting the problem no?
Well it all helps - especially if we all work together
Ive mentioned many times before that I am not pro abortion, and would far prefer people to be responsible. Its called consequences .. and Ive always taken responsibility for mine
But as I said upthread .. I understand there are exceptions and I have zero support for militancy or militant one size fits all solutions. Why? Cuz they are inflexible and ineffective for the most part.
I did however like the article Wosa shared over the page that talked about taking a more collaborative and less adversarial approach to the issue of abortion.
Again its about that age old chestnut .. that sadly so few ever truly effectively master ..
But definitely worth giving a red hot crack
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No .. I just said I want people to be responsible adults
Can you not read?
I think that you focus your mitigation efforts where the greatest vulnerability lies and thats with the male of the species.
You fuckers are fertile 24/7 .. lets start there is what I am saying
Lets close that loop so to speak
AND women can do their part .. take birth control or get their tubes tied .. or what have you
Birth control is a win win from where I am sitting
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I think that you focus your mitigation efforts where the greatest vulnerability lies and thats with the male of the species.
You fuckers are fertile 24/7 .. lets start there is what I am saying
Lets close that loop so to speak
AND women can do their part .. take birth control or get their tubes tied .. or what have you
Birth control is a win win from where I am sitting
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I've already solved this one.
All we need is the Acme (TM) "No Swimmers" male contraceptive - and/or the Acme (TM) "ContraEgg" female equivalent - added to the mains water supply. Effects of both are permanent unless and until a counter-agent is deliberately sought out and ingested by whoever wants to either father or mother children.
All we need is the Acme (TM) "No Swimmers" male contraceptive - and/or the Acme (TM) "ContraEgg" female equivalent - added to the mains water supply. Effects of both are permanent unless and until a counter-agent is deliberately sought out and ingested by whoever wants to either father or mother children.
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This is a solutionTheFallen wrote:I've already solved this one.
All we need is the Acme (TM) "No Swimmers" male contraceptive - and/or the Acme (TM) "ContraEgg" female equivalent - added to the mains water supply. Effects of both are permanent unless and until a counter-agent is deliberately sought out and ingested by whoever wants to either father or mother children.
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That is also something I have been advocating for a long time--vasectomies are easy to get and don't have a long recovery time. I know this from direct personal epxerience.Skyweir wrote:I think male sterilisation is the way forward
I think as most males of the species are fertile 24/7 they should take responsibility for fertility .. either take sperm control pills or get vasectomies
We should be targeting the problem no?
You are not misremembering.Obi-Wan Nihilo wrote:When there's no cogent argument, go for the ad hominem.
(I do seem to remember that a member was booted for making personal attacks like that. Hmmmm, maybe I'm nisremembering.)
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