I think a NOM and VAIN clay sculpt may be coming from me.

[darthbuzz]

If I mention it in here then I might have to actually get my proverbial finger out my arse.
I think these are 2 of my fave characters. Maybe I have a bit of the Dark Side in me.

These are the NOM I have in my head. Not going to start until I get past the NOM bits in the books though. Whiter like bottom right. Thank you to whoever the artists were.



As for Vain pictures... not seen any pics that match my brains version. Might do him first. A stocky, thick set, all muscle, about 5ft human'ish form with large eyes and a permanent manic grin expression. And a short grey tunic so I don't have to sculpt most the muscles.

If my Baby Yoda is anything to go by, they will look nothing like what I want them to.
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"If I can stop one heart from breaking, I shall not live in vain."
"Live for yourself and you will live in vain; Live for others, and you will live again."
Brings up all sorts of images to TCTC readers.

[Cord Hurn]

If I mention it in here then I might have to actually get my proverbial finger out my arse.
I think these are 2 of my fave characters. Maybe I have a bit of the Dark Side in me.

These are the NOM I have in my head. Not going to start until I get past the NOM bits in the books though. Whiter like bottom right. Thank you to whoever the artists were.



As for Vain pictures... not seen any pics that match my brains version. Might do him first. A stocky, thick set, all muscle, about 5ft human'ish form with large eyes and a permanent manic grin expression. And a short grey tunic so I don't have to sculpt most the muscles.

If my Baby Yoda is anything to go by, they will look nothing like what I want them to.
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"If I can stop one heart from breaking, I shall not live in vain."
"Live for yourself and you will live in vain; Live for others, and you will live again."
Brings up all sorts of images to TCTC readers.

Thank you for these Nom pictures, darthbuzz! I've always though Nom was one of Donaldson's more imaginative creations.

[darthbuzz]

OK, so I decided to pretty much completely ignore all the pictures above.
The 'rear bending knees' were just too much like Earth creatures and not, imo, of The Land.
What do you think so far? Any suggestions and comments welcome.
I hope you like him and that this is what NOM looked like in your imagination.



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"Tofu never screams."

[darthbuzz]

Video of NOM and subsequent videos on YouTube. First one here:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOeomMVWRZo

No responses so just going to finish NOM Covenant said that it didn't look big enough to do what he did so not overly muscular. He gives me the impression of a being with the strongest muscles ever and a being able to use it's power with great speed. Also it is described as having 'gills' on the side of its head so done more than 1. Also that there were feint lines of a skull.

I have started VAIN as well. The demondim spawn: artificially manufactured by ur-viles.
More rigid than gutrock, less tractable than bone. Alive to his inbred purpose and cruelly insensate to every other need or value or belief.

I guess a Findail the Appointed will have to be next. The tormented Elohim: Earthpower incarnate.
Amoral, arrogant and self-complete, capable of anything. Sent by his people to redeem the Earth at any cost.
Cannot get Getafix the Druid from Asterix out of my head.

These 2 will be the hardest. Humans suck.


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"Be a witness, not a judge. Focus on yourself, not others. Listen to your heart, not the crowd."

[darthbuzz]

OK, for those that are interested, here is my VAIN so far.




NOM needs a bit of dry brushing with acrylic paints and the pics will follow.
I do feel like I am the only one interested sometimes.


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"Until we extend our circle of compassion to all living beings,
Humanity will not find peace."

[samrw3]

They both look good to me. On Nom my only suggestion is to make ends of hands bulkier. I seem to remember the Sandgorgons able to bust down the wall so they must have some impressive strength in their arm/"hand" area. I do like the back muscles which is the other area that I pictured with strength,

Vain looks good no suggestions there.

As far as no comments. I have found on this site I have to be willing to do things for my own benefit and if I am lucky maybe some people will show interest and possibly even comment. On most things if you look around there are not a ton of comments. Just recently Atomic posted some music and I thought it was good and commented. However, there were just a couple other comments. So if I were in his shoes I may have been discouraged.

I can only speak for myself and say often I do not have time to read everything and then the extra time to comment. I know HLT spent a lot of time researching coronavirus and one of these days I hope to read through it - just way too busy at work. But I imagine he may be discouraged that he spent so much time and little to no comments.

So just keep up the great work - there are probably people out there enjoying it just not posting comments.

Just my two cents.

[darthbuzz]

I enjoyed doing him/her/it. I love it's power and the redemption of the intelligent Sandgorgons by TC after their imprisonment, bondage and servitude.


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"When I look into the eyes of some animals, I feel their anguish and loss of freedom. Their souls touch my soul."

[darthbuzz]

On Nom my only suggestion is to make ends of hands bulkier. I seem to remember the Sandgorgons able to bust down the wall so they must have some impressive strength in their arm/"hand" area. I do like the back muscles which is the other area that I pictured with strength,

Didn't see your post until now. Doh!
Yes, bulkier. You actually commented on the unfinished figure. Nom's power is in it's muscles.
Quoting myself... "Covenant said that it didn't look big enough to do what he did so not overly muscular. He gives me the impression of a being with the strongest muscles ever and a being able to use it's power with great speed." They could be the size of a pea and still smash the Sandhold or Revelstone's granite imo.

I will do an ur-vile and a waynhim after Vain and leave Findail till I am really bored. You will just get Getafix from Asterix anyway probably.

Thanks for the reply. Very much appreciated.

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"Never suffer fools gladly."

[Cord Hurn]

OK, so I decided to pretty much completely ignore all the pictures above.
The 'rear bending knees' were just too much like Earth creatures and not, imo, of The Land.
What do you think so far? Any suggestions and comments welcome.
I hope you like him and that this is what NOM looked like in your imagination.



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"Tofu never screams."

I like how appropriate the muscling of the legs looks to me, darthbuzz! It fits the way the Sandgorgon is described, at least in my mental picture I've long had.

Then the beast itself appeared. Bleached to an albino whiteness by ages of sun, it was difficult to see against the pale desert. But it ran forward with staggering speed and became clear.

It was larger than the Haruchai awaiting it, but it hardly had size enough to contain so much might. For an instant, Linden was struck by the strangeness of its gait. Its knees were back-bent like a bird's, and its feet were wide pads, giving it the ability to traverse sand with immense celerity and force. Then the Sandgorgon was almost upon Hergrom and Ceer; and she perceived other details.

It had arms, but no hands. Its forearms ended in flat flexible stumps like prehensile battering rams-arms formed to contend with sand, to break stone.

And it had no face. Its head was featureless except for the faint ridges of its skull beneath its hide and two covered slits like gills on either side.

It appeared as violent and absolute as a force of nature. Watching it, Linden was no longer conscious of breathing, Her heart might have stopped. Even Covenant with all his wild magic could not have equaled this feral beast.

Together, Hergrom and Ceer stepped out from the Sand-wall, then separated so that the Sandgorgon could not attack them both at once.

The creature shifted its impetus slightly. In a flash of white hide and fury, it charged straight at Hergrom.

As long as the legs look strong and the arms look like they can batter, that qualifies it appearing "as violent and absolute as a force of nature" to me!

[darthbuzz]

Thanks Cord Hurn.

Here is a update and then my finished'ish VAIN.
I should have done pictures of the finished body before adding the raiment.


"He wore a short grey tunic, and under it all his skin from head to foot was as black as the gaps between the stars."



I think he needs eyelids as well. Not sure where the face came from... it just happened. My first try for 37 years or so.
I like how his hair came out like charcoal and deep black. Belt is a piece of duck tape.

And finally a really low quality one with his bands from the Staff of Law.


I hope you like him.
I am going to attempt an Ur-Vile and a Waynhim I think.


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"Science may have found a cure for most evils; but
it has found no remedy for the worst of them all -
the apathy of human beings." - Helen Keller

[wayfriend]

I like it.

But "short tunic" need not mean "mini-skirt". Short need only be less than ankle-length.

I'm afraid for him if he bends over.

[darthbuzz]

I typed 'tunic' in google and looked for Roman/Medieval ones as well and a tunic seems to be generally ending in the thigh region.
Wikipedia says 'A tunic is a garment for the body, usually simple in style, reaching from the shoulders to a length somewhere between the hips and the knees.'
Anyway, I think Vain would have no need for his meat and 2 veg. He is dead. Just needs the muscles needed to complete his mission.
I'm glad SJD decided a modicum of decency is needed.



All I see now is Vain bending over.


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"The poverty of being unwanted, unloved and uncared for is the greatest poverty."

[IrrationalSanity]

I'm not sure - given the ur-Viles' continuous quest for "perfection", can I see them stopping there? Unless of course, because Vain (like them) is also a "made" creature, and given his purpose, would not need reproduce in the traditional manner.

In any case, a hearty Well Done on the sculpture!

[Wolvus na-Morham-in]

Sweet sculptures!

In my mind I pictured Vain without hair...I'm sure someone can correct my errant mental picture.

Other than the hair, that's pretty close to how I "imagine" Vain

[Cord Hurn]

Sweet sculptures!

In my mind I pictured Vain without hair...I'm sure someone can correct my errant mental picture.

Other than the hair, that's pretty close to how I "imagine" Vain

You sound right about Van being hairless, Wolvus na-Morham-in, as he is Demondim-spawn I would expect him to naturally not have hair. I think you're also right about the sculptures looking sweet; darthbuzz in my opinion does great work! Thank you, Wolvus, for checking out the art gallery and putting in some feedback! Hope you'll feel free to do more of that all over the Watch!