Did they land on the Moon?

[Brinn]

Lome,

Offer some evidence to back up your speculation...than we can discuss it.

[Loredoctor]

I've seen the frigging flag through a pretty powerful telescope, way back when! (and I wasn't smokin' nuthin' at the time! )

How powerful was that telescope? I know that to test the new interferometer in south america they trained it on the landing site to prove it existed.

[DarkReflection]

I have to believe that we made it there because there are far too many side stories, attached with space missions, especially Apollo. If it was a hoax, it would be in a nice neat little package, (JFK, I don't think it was Oswald personally) not involved with hundreds of other peoples lives, with stories about every aspect of the missions, and surrounding things. I don't know if this is making sense. But there it is.

[DarkReflection]

In response to an earlier post, many death bed confessions were prevented by sudden unexplained deaths, or assassinations.

[Revan]

Lome,

Offer some evidence to back up your speculation...than we can discuss it.

The flag was waving... and there is no atmosphere on the moon. Nuff said.

[Revan]

And yes u made this topic b4...

Have I? Indeed... I thought so... Sorry for making it again, I forgot.

[[Syl]]

Kinetic energy. The flag had to be planted firmly, it was rolled up (potential energy). The transverse (longitudinal?) waves bounce around back and forth for a bit. Given enough time after handling, entropy would take its toll and the flag would be still.

[Revan]

Not in space... The flag wouldn't move like that in space. again, nuff said. That is a fact. therefore they didn't land on the moon.

[CovenantJr]

I've heard that flag thing before, and my understanding is that it was a little flap, like a draught from someone opening a door. But indeed, you could get the same motion from an unfurling flag

[Revan]

No... It was waving... like wind was being blow against it... But their is no wind on the moon. Therefore thy did not land.

[Loredoctor]

Well, darth, the flag was waving for a short time due to the movement of unfurling it. Many many photos after it, and including film stock, show it still.

[Revan]

Well, darth, the flag was waving for a short time due to the movement of unfurling it. Many many photos after it, and including film stock, show it still.

That's because they were photographs... of course it's not going to move....

[Loredoctor]

Maybe you should read my post more carefully - I said 'and film stock'.

[Revan]

oh ok, but there's also a couple important factors... One... is that there's no way they landed one the Moon. I mean... did you see the ship? How could they get into anything in that? And it would take (Back then anyways) quite a long time to pick up the signal from the camera... They didn't land!

[Loredoctor]

Darth, do not forget human ingenuity. We can build fantastic structures, launch a probe into deep space, travel to the depths of the ocean; getting the ship to the moon is a big feat, but not unfeasable. The reason they could get back is because they had an orbiter waiting for them with the fuel and supplies for a return journey. Further, any signal from the craft would take virtually no time at all: moving close to the speed of light.

[Revan]

Darth, do not forget human ingenuity. We can build fantastic structures, launch a probe into deep space, travel to the depths of the ocean; getting the ship to the moon is a big feat, but not unfeasable. The reason they could get back is because they had an orbiter waiting for them with the fuel and supplies for a return journey. Further, any signal from the craft would take virtually no time at all: moving close to the speed of light.

Not in those days... It was years ago they "Landed" on the Moon... And don't forget the fact that the mens shadows were at the wrong angles.

[Loredoctor]

The shadow thing can be easily explained. At times (when the sun is at position in the sky), the shadows on the ground appear to converge. There have been many photos taken showing this effect. Further, the amount of light being reflected off the mountains and hills of the moon would produce that. But, if you think about it, the converging shadows argument actually disproves it was shot in a studio: if they had multiple lights you'd see multiple shadows. What we see is ONE light producing those shadows. And that's the sun in that position.

[Loredoctor]

Darth, do not forget human ingenuity. We can build fantastic structures, launch a probe into deep space, travel to the depths of the ocean; getting the ship to the moon is a big feat, but not unfeasable. The reason they could get back is because they had an orbiter waiting for them with the fuel and supplies for a return journey. Further, any signal from the craft would take virtually no time at all: moving close to the speed of light.

Not in those days... It was years ago they "Landed" on the Moon... And don't forget the fact that the mens shadows were at the wrong angles.

In those days alot was accomplished. If you deny the first landing, surely you dont deny Apollo 13's journey? That was tracked around the moon. You can't argue that it must be a hoax because it's too good a technological triumph - that's illogical and absurd. There's plenty of amazing things that you probably accept.

[Revan]

What about that car, It was pathetic. How would that keep the people driving on the Moon down? Or the boucing? Didn't that look like normal bouncing to you?

[Loredoctor]

It could keep people driving on the moon down because the moon has enough gravity to pull them down. I don't know what bouncing you are talking about, but all the footage I've seen shows slow sort of bouncing - exactly what you'd expect in a low grav environment. Oh, and before you say they slowed it down to have that effect, I'll add that speeding the footage up looks weird.