Kevin???

Post by **krycek** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 7:42 pm

is it just me or does kevin's name seem a bit outta place?? every1 else has some pretty cool fantasy-type name, and then you have kevin... that's always struck me as being weird, and its my only real complaint with TCTC. ok, so its not a big thing, but i thought i'd comment on it...

Post by **duchess of malfi** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 7:46 pm

Well, there is quite a mixture of names.

Lena, Elena, and Hyrim also have names that would not be uncommon in our world -- whereas Hile Troy, who is from our world has a very unusual name.

Post by **aTOMiC** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 7:52 pm

Now that you mention it Kevin does sound a bit strange. It reminds me of "Tim the Enchanter" from Holy Grail. I suppose we should all giggle when we hear "Kevin the Landwaster" in the midst of so many high sounding and exotic fantasy names.

Post by **Durris** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:46 pm

I have 2 thoughts on this, not necessarily consistent with each other.

First, the very "real-worldishness" of Kevin's name seems to me consistent with Donaldson's other naming practices: all over the mythos there's a sort of patchwork of exotic/invented names right beside co-opted real-world names. Even some of the most exotic words, e.g. metheglin, turn out to be earthly words from different languages. Donaldson is something of a lexical magpie (I mean this affectionately; as a child I drove my elders bonkers by making up new meanings for common words, and it takes one lexical magpie to know another one).

Second, perhaps Kevin's very common name underscores him as an Everyman figure. Not even "There but for the grace of the Creator or whomever go I," but "Every Tom, Dick, and Harry of this fallible race has the risk of Desecration inside him."

Post by **CovenantJr** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 12:16 am

That seemed very odd to me for a significant chunk of Lord Foul's Bane, but it seemed to fit with the way SRD names... eg Lord Foul, Revelstone... As I've mentioned before, they are quite simple names, often descriptive too.

I seem to recall reading that SRD named Kevin after a real person though, a specific Kevin.

Post by **Durris** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 4:03 am

CovenantJr wrote:I seem to recall reading that SRD named Kevin after a real person though, a specific Kevin.

Yikes, that sounds like an honor most people would rather do without!

Post by **Fist and Faith** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 4:28 am

heh

True enough, Durris!

Post by **variol son** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 2:45 am

What about Lord Trevor? That always struck me as much wierder for some reason.

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Post by **Nav** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:24 pm

I was about to mention that. I'd say Kevin and Trevor seem about as out of place as each other. I think I found it strangest when I first came across the names. It was hard not to imagine Lord Trevor as my friend with a pierced eyebrow and the Union Jack dyed into his hair.

Post by **Fist and Faith** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 5:19 pm

I hear the Giants got Trevor a bit toasted on diamondraught, and a Bloodguard pierced him. Bannor's all, "I'm not gonna do it!" I can't remember which actually ended up doing it.

Post by **Durris** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 5:22 pm

So at least one Bloodguard has used extrinsic weaponry in historical time!!!

I'd figured Trevor's was a tragic story involving a Healer possessed by a Raver.

Post by **krycek** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 8:24 pm

I never really noticed lord trevor, i have to admit, just cause he had a fairly small role in comparison to the others. Lena, Elena and Hyrim are names I've never heard in our world, i obviously lead a sheltered life, lol. and i would really hate to be the kevin that kevin was based upon, although the implications are quite interesting, like what sort of thing could someone have done in our world to have a character like the desecrator based upon?

Post by **CovenantJr** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 9:11 pm

I've come across Lena and Elena, but I must say Hyrim is a new one

Post by **Durris** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 10:22 pm

krycek wrote:what sort of thing could someone have done in our world to have a character like the desecrator based upon?

Put someone, or many someones, in a position where the most objectively disloyal choice they could make was the choice of being loyal to one's expressed wishes? There are various ways of doing that in RL...

Post by **krycek** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 10:28 pm

yeah ok, i didnt think about that too hard, i should have worked that out

Post by **[Syl]** » Sun Mar 21, 2004 12:32 am

Hyram is a Jewish name. Fairly common.

Post by **krycek** » Sun Mar 21, 2004 10:07 pm

I learn something new everyday. Well maybe one day I will meet a Hyrim, or a Lena or Elena, who knows

Post by **Fist and Faith** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 1:43 am

Ha! There's a character in ASOIAF named Kevan Lannister?? :LOLS:

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