Rape is a reality on the male mind, too, but it's mainly related to sex. Anyway, let me put it like this to answer your former question about male/male rape: would you consider it a trivial or unnecessary plot point for a man in prison to be threatened with rape? This is probably where you most ofte...

No, no, no. This is not specifically limited to Thomas Covenant or dreams. Dreams are related, but only because it's an example of intent without consequence.

I'm talking larger ethics. Is it the effect that makes something wrong, or the intent?

iquestor, what I meant is that it wasn't the literary equivilent of Irreversible. As I remember it, the scene went "Covenant grabbed her, ripped her clothes off, raped her, she bled, then ran off crying". I mean, it was obviously a bad thing in the context of the story, but for people to a...

One of the options is lucid dreaming, and in that case you are responsible for your dreams.

The other is something most people probably wouldn't feel bad about, although you might argue the "unconsciousness" of it reveals your true self.

Though I don't have it in front of me, I do remember an explicit reference by Smith about the "wrongness" of homosexuality, and I didn't really see kisses on cheeks as signs of sexuality. Anyway, that was a side point to what I meant. If he hated gays, it's really not important, I was just...

I haven't read any of his stuff, but I have read works that are outside of the fantasy cliche. Despite the Brooks hate I've seen, I quite enjoyed the Word and the Void series, for example. And of course the Covenant books are more non-standard, although I wasn't much of a fan of the end of White Gol...

At the risk of derailing this thread and the point of it completely, allow me to take a post of mine from another forum (directly inspired by this scene) and insert it here. Ethics has been said to be defined as what you do when no one is watching. From a religious point of view, then, there is only...

Is there such a thing as ethical behavior in dreams? When something has no consequences, can doing it be right or wrong? Most of us have had lucid dreams before. Can anyone honestly say they haven't willing indulged something terrible because they thought or knew they were dreaming? Covenant "k...

I don't see a reason to writing something if it's not going to be psychological, sociological, or hell, have significance. Otherwise it's just "idle and extravagant stories" taking up space on a page or bookshelf.

In my mind, what makes fantasy such a poor genre is that it's regressive instead of progressive. I nearly said that the intended audience of teens and young adolescents was to blame, but science fiction suffers from the same thing and has still managed to transcend that and create many works of thou...

I liked Heinlein when I first began reading him, but by the third book, I'd grown absolutely sick of his need to insert himself into the stories as the absolute, infallible opinion on everything. I read Starship Troopers when I was a young teenager and liked it, maybe because Rico's teacher wasn't a...

From what I saw, danlo edited Thomas Covenant into other pages, such as the history of the fantasy genre, which is not exactly the right place for such things. Lists are fine, and the Covenant series is there as of right now (as is the Land), but as you said, it's not especially popular or influenci...

Vain annoyed me throughout the book, or at least Donaldson's descriptions of him. It was almost as bad as seeing the word "mien" every other page. "Everyone did such and such, except Vain who stood with his arms slightly bent and a grin on his lips as if nothing affected him." &q...

That's probably true, but according to alexa wikipedia is the 17th most popular site on the web, and kevin's watch is somewhere in the mid six millions. If you want people to find out about Thomas Covenant, Kevin's Watch may suffice but it's not the best possible way to reach people. If you don't wa...

If you read the talk page , it seems back in February they were supportive of a project to format better and such, so I don't see why they would delete any effort by devoted fans to improve things. I may be wrong, but in most cases of wiki edit wars, there has to be a strong opposition, and I don't ...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chronicles_of_Thomas_Covenant%2C_the_Unbeliever Compare: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings Or even: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannara where each book has its own entry and there are many hyperlinks for each character. I really have nothing to add to the discussion of...