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The irony's not lost on me.Hashi Lebwohl wrote:Joy Behar was mocking Americans for feeling that they are independent when, in her words, we are actually a nation of sheep who just do what we are told.
Is she getting confused? The Left has been trying to make us all sheep for 50 years--it's what they want.
"Wear a mask to protect other people--we are supposed to look out for our fellow citizens." Fuck my fellow citizens--it is your job to take care of you, not mine.
So what about the putative social contract, community, etc?Hashi Lebwohl wrote:Fuck my fellow citizens--it is your job to take care of you, not mine.
You might have a point if this virus were particularly dangerous. Thankfully, it is not.Avatar wrote:So what about the putative social contract, community, etc?Hashi Lebwohl wrote:Fuck my fellow citizens--it is your job to take care of you, not mine.
Not to mention that it is our fellow citizens (of the world) who enable the vast majority of our lifestyle etc. Almost everything we use or consume is produced by other people. Paid for, sure, but no money will help if those people aren't there to produce it.
That is an artificial construct to which people like to cling because they cannot handle the alternative. The next time you are out and about--whenever your politicians let you be out and about--take an objectively close look at the random people around you. Do you really think they have your best interests at heart? Do you really think they give a shit about you?Avatar wrote:So what about the putative social contract, community, etc?
Oh, there's a reason I said "putative." I have a long history of disputing the validity of such a "contract." There are very few of my own neighbours I would recognise by sight.Hashi Lebwohl wrote:That is an artificial construct to which people like to cling because they cannot handle the alternative. The next time you are out and about--whenever your politicians let you be out and about--take an objectively close look at the random people around you. Do you really think they have your best interests at heart? Do you really think they give a shit about you?Avatar wrote:So what about the putative social contract, community, etc?
Not only do I not know my neighbors' names, if you lined them up with other random people I probably couldn't tell you who my neighbors are by sight.
I never have a problem with people choosing for themselves, even if I would not make the same choice. That is something I have always supported--personal choice.Avatar wrote:However, even if we leave aside any implied or assumed obligation toward the well-being of your fellow man, what's the problem? If they choose to take care of themselves by wearing masks and closing their stores etc. Then that's fine.
And if the choice is "made" for you by whatever level of government, why, that's the government you collectively agreed on.
The other thing of course is that this is exactly the attitude that leads to the dissolution of societies. Which, you will recall, were formed in the first place in order to utilise the benefits of collective effort for the good of more than just a single individual.
I do drop in to the TV/Movies forum from time to time. It has been slow as of late because no one is going to the movies and most TV shows are pretty bad.Avatar wrote:(I would put this elsewhere, but dunno where you're see it...they're releasing a Fallout TV series.
Explain that logic.Kizza wrote:If MS13 are your neighbours, ahem, I suggest you try moving.