So I guess, technically, you don't really own that ebook

Post by **Avatar** » Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:48 pm

Pretty sure the discussion is in Gen Lit.

--A

Post by **wayfriend** » Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:26 pm

The whole story is always a bit different.

Gizmodo wrote:In this case, the mass e-book removals were motivated by copyright . A company called MobileReference, who did not own the copyrights to the books 1984 and Animal Farm, uploaded both books to the Kindle store and started selling them. When the rights owner heard about this, they contacted Amazon and asked that the e-books be removed. And Amazon decided to erase them not just from the store, but from all the Kindles where they'd been downloaded. Amazon operators used the Kindle wireless network, called WhisperNet, to quietly delete the books from people's devices and refund them the money they'd paid.

Post by **SoulBiter** » Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:56 pm

I was thinking about this over the weekend and the implications of the digital age we find ourselves in. It is highly likely that we will one day deal with all kinds of data being digitally altered in the future. Not just books, but it could be digital historical information, personal information, medical information. There really is no end to the risk this exposes society to over time. I suspect some of this has already happened but over time it could be widespread.

Something to think about.

Post by **Fist and Faith** » Wed Mar 08, 2023 3:04 pm

As each generation dies, chances for truths to be remembered are lost. The newer generations will only learn from the altered digital sources.

Post by **wayfriend** » Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:58 pm

Post by **Avatar** » Wed Mar 08, 2023 8:29 pm

Fist and Faith wrote:As each generation dies, chances for truths to be remembered are lost. The newer generations will only learn from the altered digital sources.

The truth is what we believe it to be.

--A

Post by **High Lord Tolkien** » Wed Mar 08, 2023 10:03 pm

wayfriend wrote:The whole story is always a bit different.
Gizmodo wrote:In this case, the mass e-book removals were motivated by copyright . A company called MobileReference, who did not own the copyrights to the books 1984 and Animal Farm, uploaded both books to the Kindle store and started selling them. When the rights owner heard about this, they contacted Amazon and asked that the e-books be removed. And Amazon decided to erase them not just from the store, but from all the Kindles where they'd been downloaded. Amazon operators used the Kindle wireless network, called WhisperNet, to quietly delete the books from people's devices and refund them the money they'd paid.

That makes sense and is fair. Glad they were refunded.

Post by **High Lord Tolkien** » Wed Mar 08, 2023 10:07 pm

Didn't someone discover an older version of the bible in a jar in a cave a number of years ago?
And wasn't there a shitshow regarding bible rewrites?

Post by **Fist and Faith** » Wed Mar 08, 2023 11:09 pm

I'm sure there's no controversy over the Bible's one, true translation.

Post by **Rigel** » Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:43 am

SoulBiter wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:56 pm I was thinking about this over the weekend and the implications of the digital age we find ourselves in. It is highly likely that we will one day deal with all kinds of data being digitally altered in the future. Not just books, but it could be digital historical information, personal information, medical information. There really is no end to the risk this exposes society to over time. I suspect some of this has already happened but over time it could be widespread.

Something to think about.

We've been dealing with this at least going back to the Special Editions of Star Wars and its sequels. Ironically, George Lucas is a huge proponent of film preservation, to the point that there's a fan theory his constant meddling in the films was intentional trolling in order to bring the issue to light.

Post by **Avatar** » Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:27 am

Meh, I doubt that like hell.

But I'm not a fan of re-conning either...bloody Stephen King did it with the DT and I was really annoyed.

--A

Post by **Fist and Faith** » Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:37 pm

Don't start reading comic books. Retcon is a way of life.

Post by **Avatar** » Tue Mar 14, 2023 1:08 pm

Yeah but they pass it off as alternate timelines or whatever.

It's worse in books.

--A

Post by **Fist and Faith** » Tue Mar 14, 2023 1:14 pm

No, there's tons and tons of outright retconning.

Post by **Skyweir** » Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:59 pm

High Lord Tolkien wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 10:07 pm Didn't someone discover an older version of the bible in a jar in a cave a number of years ago?
And wasn't there a shitshow regarding bible rewrites?

Archeologists DID find an old book of the Bible ~ I think not too far from where the Dead Sea Scrolls were found … and the Cave was the. Cave if Horrors or something like that.

Post by **Avatar** » Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:23 pm

Well, in 393CE the Council of Hippo chose which books belonged in the bible, and which didn't.

Quite a few books, including some gospels, got the chop.

--A

Post by **Skyweir** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:11 am

Indeed and they’re finding more and more of those that didn’t make it ~ for whatever reason

I’d wager some folks went to a great deal of effort in the recording and safeguarding of many of them too.

It’s like working for government lol

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