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Yeah. The original Gunslinger had no mention of 19, etc. etc.

In the original, his "Afterword" literally says that he has no idea who Roland is, where he's going, or what the hell is gonna happen, but if he finds out he'll let us know. (No doubt he'll be revising DotT and TW too...)

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Yep, and somehow that seems more than a bit dishonest.
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Totally agree. Rewriting history man. :D

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Just started WOTC and I'm wondering WTH is going on??
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King rewrote portions of the Gunslinger (the 1st book in the series) to better reflect the mythos that was created over the years...some of the Watch takes offense to it.
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May I just inject how much I despise Rita Blakemoor? :gag:

Are y'all sure King only put stuff back in to The Stand when this complete edition came out? There's a lot of stuff in here that hadn't occured in 1978 yet (the original copyright date this copy has for the original edition)...
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Menolly wrote:May I just inject how much I despise Rita Blakemoor? :gag:

Are y'all sure King only put stuff back in to The Stand when this complete edition came out? There's a lot of stuff in here that hadn't occured in 1978 yet (the original copyright date this copy has for the original edition)...
That's what King himslef says occured. I have no reason to doubt it.
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Menolly wrote:May I just inject how much I despise Rita Blakemoor? :gag:

Are y'all sure King only put stuff back in to The Stand when this complete edition came out? There's a lot of stuff in here that hadn't occured in 1978 yet (the original copyright date this copy has for the original edition)...
That's what King himslef says occured. I have no reason to doubt it.
I do. There was no AIDS in 1978, and it's mentioned in the expanded version. King clearly added to the book when it was rereleased.
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:::nodding:::

Not to mention song titles and other cultural references...
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:::double post, sorry:::

I'm about a third of the way into The Stand, and am finally starting to pick up on slight DT references; other than the obvious one of the antagonist being Flagg.

For instance, today Flagg just broke Lloyd out of prison. What stood out for me in this passage since starting DT was the stone/eye/key used to open the cell door, and the way Flagg rolls it across his knuckles while talking to Lloyd.

Then, although I was sitting doing hardly anything for seven hours at the water park today, I had to stop reading when I finished the part where Nick meets Tom.

I remember a lot of that stuff from the original edition I read back in the early 1980s. But, Beorn wasn't around then. Beorn isn't nearly as severely affected as Tom is, and while his face doesn't totally go inanimate when he's processing new information, there is a blankness in his eyes that we thought might have been petite mal seizures at one time. They only last about 30 seconds at a time, but the results afterwards of Beorn comprehending a new idea struck me as exactly what King described for Tom.

So, I silently wept after that passage, and then put the book away for today...
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King said that all his books worlds are in The Tower.
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I'm on page 914 of 1141 in the edition of The Stand I'm reading, which is Beorn's copy he bought with a Bar Mitzvah gift card. According to Av's suggested reading order, I have seven more books to go.

I had checked out the series from the library something like two months ago for Beorn to read, and both he and Paul zipped right through it. Tomorrow is the due date and I was worried sick I would have to put holds on all these books to get them out again.

So, I went online and attempted to renew all seven of them again...and they went through!! I now have until June 3rd to try and finish my journey before I have to attempt to renew again. :::happy dance:::

Most likely I'll have one or two of them in tow at ElohimFest. With the time difference, and the fact that I am used to having to get up everyday at 5:30 am, I expect to have several hours where I won't want to make any noise in the wee hours of the mornings on Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and Monday at danlo's and Lady Tam's...
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Have fun Menolly. :D

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I can't wait to return to the ka-tet...
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:::apologizing for the double post:::

Onward to Wizard and Glass!

:::although I really don't remember that particular ending to The Stand when I read the original edition all those years ago:::
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It wasn't in the original (abridged) version. :D

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Ahhhh! Thanks Av.

:::I know I'm aging, but not recognizing what I thought was the ending to both editions really disturbed me:::

That's quite a drastic change between the two then. I assume the reason he tacked that on will become clear?
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Well, it let Flagg survive, didn't it?

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Avatar wrote:Well, it let Flagg survive, didn't it?

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But, it wasn't necessary. Flagg's physical form disappearing before the explosion alludes to the posibility of that already in a much subtler manner...doesn't it?
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True enough. Been a long time since I read the abridged version...remember the full-length one much better.

Anyway, I suspect that when authors get to the "status" King had when the next version came out, "neccessity" is a very much secondary concern.

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