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Hurray for rascism!Revan wrote:maybe thats how Foul finally gets finished - he catches a full blow gaseous bomb from the Worm's behind - he gets blown out the cosmos. i wander if kassy speaks in a Mexican voice.
Sorry, Mexico is a country not a race. But thanks for playing!Fuzzy_Logic wrote:Hurray for rascism!Revan wrote:maybe thats how Foul finally gets finished - he catches a full blow gaseous bomb from the Worm's behind - he gets blown out the cosmos. i wander if kassy speaks in a Mexican voice.
Those are my feelings as well. Maybe ending on a positive note by having the Creator offer Linden, Thomas, and Jeremiah some sort of caretaker role for one or more of his other creations, but the Land will be gone (but not forgotten).Horrim Carabal wrote:Probably. I'm 90% certain that the Earth is toast, btw.
Oh Andelain, forgive!the Land will be gone (but not forgotten).
I predict we're gonna see it up-close, and personal.ur-Timewarden wrote: I'm wondering if we'll ever get to see the Worm in action, or if all of its activities will occur "off-screen"?
If that's the case, and the Land is toast as a lot of people are predicting, this is going to be one really interesting last book. There are so many threads to tie up, it seems like it's going to be a wild ride.Vraith wrote:I predict we're gonna see it up-close, and personal.
It's interesting to note, from Foul's perspective, he's already won. The Worm is awake, and Linden was the one who woke it. Every word of prophecy spoken by LF came true.ur-Timewarden wrote:it seems like it's going to be a wild ride.
Just off the top of my head:
- Kastenessen, skurj, Roger, cavewights (probably big Mt. Thunder battle)
- Worm, Elohim (if any are left), Earthblood
- Longwrath, his sword, and the Sandgorgons
- Foul and the Ravers
- The Creator (do we get to meet him at the end?)
Yes on 2), however, the magic of retconning has taken care of that uncomfortable detail, unless Foul has an escape plan from the Worm.Rigel wrote:Two things about the Worm:
1) We don't know that it's an actual Worm. It IS an actual entity, but we don't know it's shape or form. Personally, I'm thinking a Dragon would be cool, but knowing Donaldson... it might just as easily be an old man in a robe. Since ochre and veridian are already taken, maybe he could go with puce?
2) It might be able to hurt Foul... it's an Eternal being, from outside the AoT, and I recall a comment from Donaldson where he stated that Foul didn't wake it up because he was afraid of being eaten
Yeah I suppose that's been changed...hrmm..TheWormoftheWorld'sEnd wrote:Yes on 2), however, the magic of retconning has taken care of that uncomfortable detail, unless Foul has an escape plan from the Worm.Rigel wrote: 2) It might be able to hurt Foul... it's an Eternal being, from outside the AoT, and I recall a comment from Donaldson where he stated that Foul didn't wake it up because he was afraid of being eaten
Perhaps it is named Jeremiah?Horrim Carabal wrote:Yeah I suppose that's been changed...hrmm..TheWormoftheWorld'sEnd wrote:Yes on 2), however, the magic of retconning has taken care of that uncomfortable detail, unless Foul has an escape plan from the Worm.Rigel wrote: 2) It might be able to hurt Foul... it's an Eternal being, from outside the AoT, and I recall a comment from Donaldson where he stated that Foul didn't wake it up because he was afraid of being eaten
Maybe the entire last book will consist of solid black pages, no print. <grin>ur-Timewarden wrote:If the sun winks out of existence or is somehow obfuscated and the stars are gone for whatever reason, could this be The Last Dark? And if so, will the whole last book take place in the dark (or a very, very gray sky)?
His prophecy was fulfilled in the 2nd Chrons, too. But TC still dealt to him. Foul seems to have trouble seeing past his own foresight.Horrim Carabal wrote:It's interesting to note, from Foul's perspective, he's already won. The Worm is awake, and Linden was the one who woke it. Every word of prophecy spoken by LF came true.ur-Timewarden wrote:it seems like it's going to be a wild ride.
Just off the top of my head:
- Kastenessen, skurj, Roger, cavewights (probably big Mt. Thunder battle)
- Worm, Elohim (if any are left), Earthblood
- Longwrath, his sword, and the Sandgorgons
- Foul and the Ravers
- The Creator (do we get to meet him at the end?)
All he has to do now is wait out the final acts. He's just having fun, probably trying to cause as much abject misery as he can before the end.
And he has no fear of the Worm, it can't hurt him.
Worms are a standard metaphor for death, decay, rot. Infelice makes this connection pretty explicit by saying that the Worm is the Earth's necessary means of destruction, that all natural, living things must have the means of their end within them. The Worm is the metaphor for the inescapable fact of mortality and entropy. Death and decay. We can create local pockets of decreased entropy, just like we can foster growth and renewal (which is represented by the Worm sleeping), but it has to wake up sometime.ur-Timewarden wrote:So now that the Worm is actually a worm, what does it represent? Why would the Earth have a giant worm that needs to stay asleep, and has a group of similar mystical beings whose whole purpose is to keep it asleep? There are the obvious Norse mythology parallels, so if that's the case, does the Worm represent chaos and the end of all things?
With the characters stumbling around like blind worms with a bad case of Scoleciphiobia...ur-Timewarden wrote:If the sun winks out of existence or is somehow obfuscated and the stars are gone for whatever reason, could this be The Last Dark? And if so, will the whole last book take place in the dark (or a very, very gray sky)?
