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First-time Dark Tower reader
I got The Gunslinger for Christmas (Kindle version).
Enjoying so far. I actually got a real kick out of the Foreword to the revised edition.
I don't like creepy or meaningless eroticism, so I hope there isn't a lot of that. But so far, great characterizations-- and I'm a sucker for good characters.
As I said elsewhere, I don't think I've read King since high school (Carrie and 'Salem's Lot)!
Enjoying so far. I actually got a real kick out of the Foreword to the revised edition.
I don't like creepy or meaningless eroticism, so I hope there isn't a lot of that. But so far, great characterizations-- and I'm a sucker for good characters.
As I said elsewhere, I don't think I've read King since high school (Carrie and 'Salem's Lot)!
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*moved discussion from Gen Disc*
OK, so in case you are not aware, King turned The Gunslinger series in to a way to tie many of his novels together. Av posted a reading order of what he feels are the most connected, which is the order I followed. There is a chart floating around somewhere that connects even more, but I thoroughly enjoyed Av's suggestions.deer of the dawn wrote:To be honest, I think the last King I read was Carrie or 'Salem's Lot when I was in high school!! So no, I haven't read the series, nor The Stand. I started reading it and am thoroughly enjoying.Menolly wrote:Have you read the series before, deer?deer of the dawn wrote:Kindle books:
The Dark Tower 1: The Gunslinger by Stephen King
If not, feel free to do something similar to what I did with the A Fresh Journey to the Tower thread.
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Oh, thank you for that, Menolly!!
I finished Gunslinger. I LOVED the writing. I didn't really get the point of the long journey through the tunnel, but that may become clear later, I suppose. The writing is good enough that I definitely want more.
Maybe I should loop back and read Eyes of the Dragon?
I finished Gunslinger. I LOVED the writing. I didn't really get the point of the long journey through the tunnel, but that may become clear later, I suppose. The writing is good enough that I definitely want more.
Maybe I should loop back and read Eyes of the Dragon?
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle. -Philo of Alexandria
ahhhh... if only all our creativity in wickedness could be fixed by "Corrupt a Wish." - Linna Heartlistener
ahhhh... if only all our creativity in wickedness could be fixed by "Corrupt a Wish." - Linna Heartlistener
Unnecessary.deer of the dawn wrote:Oh, thank you for that, Menolly!!
I finished Gunslinger. I LOVED the writing. I didn't really get the point of the long journey through the tunnel, but that may become clear later, I suppose. The writing is good enough that I definitely want more.
Maybe I should loop back and read Eyes of the Dragon?
You may want to work The Stand and Insomnia into your read, but even if you don't, the DT books work on their own.
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If it has been as long as I assume it has been since you read 'Salem's Lot, I definitely suggest a reread of that in the suggested order as well.Cail wrote:Unnecessary.deer of the dawn wrote:Oh, thank you for that, Menolly!!
I finished Gunslinger. I LOVED the writing. I didn't really get the point of the long journey through the tunnel, but that may become clear later, I suppose. The writing is good enough that I definitely want more.
Maybe I should loop back and read Eyes of the Dragon?
You may want to work The Stand and Insomnia into your read, but even if you don't, the DT books work on their own.
And since Low Men is a short story (in Hearts in Atlantis, right? Although I do think there are other parts of Hearts which could be included as tie-ins), as well as Everything's Eventual and Little Sisters, they're not that difficult to work in.
...if one can get a hold of the books they're in.
But if not, Cail is right. The series can be enjoyed on its own. These additional works do flesh it out in a positive way though, in my opinion.
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Menolly wrote: But if not, Cail is right. The series can be enjoyed on its own. These additional works do flesh it out in a positive way though, in my opinion.
Agree in a general way.
Though my personal recommendation would be for the attached/overlap/shared ones read either before or after the series itself, but not during.
[for me, salem's lot and the 2 with straub...talisman and black house...were the only with significance much beyond "that's kinda nifty."]
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the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
This is probably the best advice. The DT story is self-contained, all the other books simply add texture.wayfriend wrote:... I would wait and do them on a re-read, personally.
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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See?Vraith wrote:Menolly wrote: But if not, Cail is right. The series can be enjoyed on its own. These additional works do flesh it out in a positive way though, in my opinion.
Agree in a general way.
Though my personal recommendation would be for the attached/overlap/shared ones read either before or after the series itself, but not during.
[for me, salem's lot and the 2 with straub...talisman and black house...were the only with significance much beyond "that's kinda nifty."]
Talisman and Black House aren't on Av's suggested reading order at all, so I haven't read them. Where would they fit in on a re-read?
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hmmmm....it's been a long time, so I'm a little iffy. But most of the interplay is with Wolves and Dark Tower. So in the space between, after Song? [I don't remember if Talisman connects at all, actually...but House definitely does.]Menolly wrote:See?Vraith wrote:Menolly wrote: But if not, Cail is right. The series can be enjoyed on its own. These additional works do flesh it out in a positive way though, in my opinion.
Agree in a general way.
Though my personal recommendation would be for the attached/overlap/shared ones read either before or after the series itself, but not during.
[for me, salem's lot and the 2 with straub...talisman and black house...were the only with significance much beyond "that's kinda nifty."]
Talisman and Black House aren't on Av's suggested reading order at all, so I haven't read them. Where would they fit in on a re-read?
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the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
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Talisman was never meant to be part of the DT, but there are a couple of hints that it occurs in Roland's world. Black House, written 15 years later, ret-cons things a little making the connection more obvious.
I thought Talisman was a good book. Didn't like Black House as much, although it appears more connected.
We might as well add Wind Through The Keyhole in between book 4 & 5 as well.
Have fun Deer...it's a hell of a ride. And some great characters, and no creepy eroticism really.
(FWIW, King revised the Gunslinger to better fit into the plan he later conceived of joining it all up. You'll have the revised version, but there is an original version too.)
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I thought Talisman was a good book. Didn't like Black House as much, although it appears more connected.
We might as well add Wind Through The Keyhole in between book 4 & 5 as well.
Have fun Deer...it's a hell of a ride. And some great characters, and no creepy eroticism really.
(FWIW, King revised the Gunslinger to better fit into the plan he later conceived of joining it all up. You'll have the revised version, but there is an original version too.)
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the only book outside the DT series i think is sort of necessary is Salem's Lot. for obvious reasons which i won't go into here since Deer hasn't gotten too far in yet.
everything else is more icing on the cake.
everything else is more icing on the cake.
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~ alan bates, the mothman prophecies
i've had this with actors before, on the set,
where they get upset about the [size of my]
trailer, and i'm always like...take my trailer,
cause... i'm from Kentucky
and that's not what we brag about.
~ george clooney, inside the actor's studio
a straight edge for legends at
the fold - searching for our
lost cities of gold. burnt tar,
gravel pits. sixteen gears switch.
Haphazard Lucy strolls by.
~ dennis r wood ~