Kevin's Watch

Don't get me wrong; Gilmour (along with Wright and Mason) were the bulk of the Floyd's musicality, but I believe the bulk of the band's edge and soul belonged to Waters. I felt like a lot of that was lost with his departure. But it was inevitable, wasn't it? The Final Cut was basically a Roger Waters solo album.

The Final Cut is an excellent album, IMO. Some PF fans, even, put that album down. Some of Waters' finest work. btw, Waters is himself a talented bassist as shown on the great albums like WYWH, Animals, Dark Side, etc.

Oh yeah, I love the Final Cut. Bought it last year and then again when the new, remastered version hit the scene.

Erm - a point about Waters being a talented Bassist - DG wrote and recorded all of the Fretless sections, and a good deal of the fretted ones...RW just had to play them Live...

Not that that's easy..sure...

Biff wrote:"Marmalade, toast... I like toast." LOL

Lol. I just listened to that album on my way back to school from home. Adam Heart Mother is a very underated album, and so is Meddle. I absolutely adore that song "A Pillow of Winds".

Pink Floyd is great, but I am beginning to think that Radiohead might be almost as good. (at least at their best. OK Computer is a near perfect album.)

While I love Radiohead, OK Computer had some tracks I skip over, whereas with everything Pink Floyd did from Dark Side on I tend to listen to in its entirety (except the Final Cut). I suppose I'm biased! I mean, Pink Floyd just had classic album after classic album after Dark Side, whereas I don't think Radiohead has come near OK Computer since (although, I admit their post-OK Computer stuff was admirable and enjoyable, to be sure).

Lord Foul wrote:While I love Radiohead, OK Computer had some tracks I skip over, whereas with everything Pink Floyd did from Dark Side on I tend to listen to in its entirety (except the Final Cut). I suppose I'm biased! I mean, Pink Floyd just had classic album after classic album after Dark Side, whereas I don't think Radiohead has come near OK Computer since (although, I admit their post-OK Computer stuff was admirable and enjoyable, to be sure).

Hehe, remember that I said "almost"

Really the only track I skip on OK Computer is fitter, and recently I have stopped doing even that. It has become kind of Iconic to me.

To me, Wish You Were Here was Floyd's closest album to perfection. NOTHING I skip on that. But there is plenty I skip on the wall. (after that little melody in "Is there Anybody Out There" I skip straight to Comfortably Numb. I also usually skip the track between Breathe and Time on Dark Side (on the run? something like that)

Plus, I think Radiohead has bounced back from Kid A/ Amnesiac. Hail to the Thief was a marked improvement IMO.

The Dreaming wrote:To me, Wish You Were Here was Floyd's closest album to perfection. NOTHING I skip on that.

Amen!

The Dreaming wrote:Plus, I think Radiohead has bounced back from Kid A/ Amnesiac. Hail to the Thief was a marked improvement IMO.

Amen twice!

Bumpity bump

I have recently had a Pink Floyd resurgence due to a chance listening of Brain Damage and Eclipse - two of the greatest, most moving songs in Pink Floyd history!

I have confined myself to their 70s stuff at this stage. I think that is their golden decade - Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, Animals, The Wall. All almost flawless albums.

StevieG wrote:Bumpity bump

I have recently had a Pink Floyd resurgence due to a chance listening of Brain Damage and Eclipse - two of the greatest, most moving songs in Pink Floyd history!

I have confined myself to their 70s stuff at this stage. I think that is their golden decade - Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, Animals, The Wall. All almost flawless albums.

I don't connect with "The Wall," but I agree wholeheartedly with everything else.

Try Obscurred by Clouds.

My favorite.

Hawkwind doing Cymbaline

Miley Cyrus did a version of Wish You Were Here on SNL, and now the song is tarnished.

Cagliostro wrote:Miley Cyrus did a version of Wish You Were Here on SNL, and now the song is tarnished.

See, that's just not fair! You just made me go to Youtube, look up the damn song, tell myself that I shouldn't listen - don't do it, don't do it - click on it anyway. Arrrrggh! But, I only got through one minute and then turned it off, so that's a plus...

Sgt, yes I do like Obscured by Clouds too. It shows promise in the lead up to Dark Side of the Moon. There are some good song on it - Wots...uh the deal, The Gold its in the... , Free Four etc. I also enjoy some of Meddle. Echoes is a good attempt at a long song - could probably cut out about 10 minutes of it to make it a great song, but it has a great feel to it.

Echoes is my absolute favorite for a laser light show in a planetarium...

Well, I'll keep that in mind if ever there is a laser light show in a planetarium near me, and it is playing Echoes I find myself skipping through the 5 minutes or so of muffled whale sounds to get to the really satisfying end sequence.

A Saucerful of Secrets is similar (the song, not the album) - you've got to wade through 8 and a half minutes of disharmony to get to the beautiful finale - the chords are awesome.

Dark Side of the Moon is when they seemed to become way more focused and way less rambling.

I think Syd Barret's mental health caused Roger Waters so much empathetic pain, that Dark Side of the Moon just poured out of him as an outlet. The fact that there were three other brilliant musicians for him to collaborate with in expressing that pain was to our benefit.

Well put. Combine Syd Barrett's condition with Roger Waters' own childhood, and his ability to cope or otherwise with that, and you have the basis for most of those amazing 70s concept albums.

But he certainly couldn't have done it without the rest of them, without the musical style they brought together. Just as if David Gilmour was the creative head of the band, they never would have gotten anywhere near the popularity that they reached. In my opinion, they would have been just another band creating quirky and sometimes brilliant individual songs, with wishy-washy lyrics (or something like that ).

StevieG wrote:Well, Echoes I find myself skipping through the 5 minutes or so of muffled whale sounds to get to the really satisfying.

I thought those were seagulls?

Yeah they probably are meant to be seagulls - but they're really trippin' seagulls