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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:28 pm
by lucimay
Sorus wrote:Lucimay wrote:
i really liked the kendra smith tho!! very much.
Had you heard her before?
no! i hadn't! had to look her up.
really liked it a lot too. she's my kinda weird girl!!!
Guns, dave matthews is sexy. and his band are exceedingly good,
and his music is an interesting marriage of postmodern poetry and
jazz rock pop.
and dave is sexy.
not that that will make you like him any better but, since you
"don't git it" i thought i'd explain.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:48 am
by A Gunslinger
I do like the song "Satellite" ....on your recommendation, I'll endeavor to give it another cahnce....that and HE did sign Chris Whitley to a contract on HIS label...
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:58 am
by CovenantJr
No doubt at least a dozen people will beat me with wet noodles for this, but...
Hendrix.
No idea what the appeal is. To me he just sounds like he can't play his guitar very well.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:59 am
by A Gunslinger
CovenantJr wrote:No doubt at least a dozen people will beat me with wet noodles for this, but...
Hendrix.
No idea what the appeal is. To me he just sounds like he can't play his guitar very well.
Thee art brave Roger...brave indeed.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:18 am
by Loredoctor
CovenantJr wrote:No doubt at least a dozen people will beat me with wet noodles for this, but...
Hendrix.
No idea what the appeal is. To me he just sounds like he can't play his guitar very well.
Well said!
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:31 am
by Sunbaneglasses
Loremaster wrote:CovenantJr wrote:No doubt at least a dozen people will beat me with wet noodles for this, but...
Hendrix.
No idea what the appeal is. To me he just sounds like he can't play his guitar very well.
Well said!
CJ and I may not agree on some things,but to this I must say bravo.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:31 am
by Cail
I have respect for Hendrix, as he was a pioneer.
But I can't listen to him. He's just too sloppy.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:08 pm
by Zarathustra
Sometimes sloppy-with-feeling is better than presice-without-soul. One could make a similar judgement of Jimmy Page, but he's fantastic.
You've got to look at these people in their historical context. That's the reason you're not getting them. Hendrix was ground breaking. He played in a way and with a tone that no one had ever experienced before. There was a reason he was blowing people's minds. Try to see through their eyes. Learning to appreciate music which you're not raised to love is almost exactly like learning to appreciate a culture you're not born into.
It's like Eddie Van Halen's first CD. Listen to it in its context. Rock music was becoming bloated and brooding. Zepplin and Black Sabbath. The opposite of youthful, fun, exuberance. Then comes this 17-yr-old kid who plays in a way no one has heard before, with a band that stresses the party nature of rock and roll. Sure, legions of guitarists picked up Eddie's tricks, and lesser bands took the party attitude to new lows. But Eddie was the first to achieve this sound, and his band reinvigorated this attitude. It was revolutionary at the time.
Give credit to the pioneers who blazed the trails (or ruts) that music is now rolling through.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:34 pm
by aTOMiC2
Cail wrote:I have respect for Hendrix, as he was a pioneer.
But I can't listen to him. He's just too sloppy.
As unpopular as your opinion might be, Cail I happen to completely agree with you. I have respect for the Icon but I'm not a natural fan of his music.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:48 pm
by Cail
Oh I'm getting them Malik, been playing guitar for 25 years. Comparing Jimmy Page to Jimi Hendrix is sort of like comparing......Hell, I don't know, insert a ridiculous comparison here....Filet mignon to a bag of Cheetos.
Hendrix broke ground, but I'd argue that there's very little emotion (or "feel" if you like) to his playing. Page is all about feel.
IOW, just because someone was first doesn't make them good.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:50 pm
by A Gunslinger
LORD FOUL'S BRAIN wrote:Cail wrote:I have respect for Hendrix, as he was a pioneer.
But I can't listen to him. He's just too sloppy.
As unpopular as your opinion might be, Cail I happen to completely agree with you. I have respect for the Icon but I'm not a natural fan of his music.
Welcome the watch, LFB!
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:54 pm
by Cail
Last I'll say about Hendrix.....
There are a couple of things he did that were absolutely breathtaking. But that's it, just a couple. Most of his stuff makes me cringe it's so sloppy (and yes, the same can be said about a lot of live Page, especially in '77).
Looking at Jimi's overall body of work, I don't think it compares favorably with Page's, Clapton's, or Beck's.
Hell, even though Hendrix did it first, SRV did it better.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:58 pm
by A Gunslinger
Cail wrote:Last I'll say about Hendrix.....
There are a couple of things he did that were absolutely breathtaking. But that's it, just a couple. Most of his stuff makes me cringe it's so sloppy (and yes, the same can be said about a lot of live Page, especially in '77).
Looking at Jimi's overall body of work, I don't think it compares favorably with Page's, Clapton's, or Beck's.
Hell, even though Hendrix did it first, SRV did it better.
I recall Pete Townsend talking about how all of them at the time (himself, Page, Clapton, etc) all were cowed and intimidated by Hendrix and his abilities. That is saying something.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:03 pm
by Cail
To you, maybe.
To me it seems like heaping praise on someone who died too young, and wasted their talent getting f-ed up rather than playing.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:15 pm
by lucimay
i'll repeat this here but i think i posted it elsewhere in the Hendrix discussions...
i don't remember which it was that said it but the first time Thrashmaster Townsend and Slowhand Clapton heard Hendrix play live, one leaned over to the other and said "I think we're out of a job!"

i think Clapton told that story on some Hendrix documentary.
my favorite guitarists, none of which i think is any "better" than the other.
Hendrix
Townsend
Clapton
Page
Gilmour
i think they all learned from each other.
i think they all have a unique and specific place
in rock guitar.
i couldn't choose if you paid me.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:17 pm
by Cail
Well put Luci (though I don't think Townsend's fit to carry Gilmour's jock).
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:34 pm
by lucimay
Cail wrote:Well put Luci (though I don't think Townsend's fit to carry Gilmour's jock).
well...we all have our heros, i'd imagine. i personally wouldn't want to carry Gilmour's jock and i doubt Townsend would either, but hey, to each his own!!
i should say that all those guys also learned from the same sources, BLUES players. all of them. they all digested what they'd learned and spit it back out in different ways. they each "progressed" blues derivitive rock playing in their own ways.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:18 pm
by Loredoctor
Foo Fighters - Yawn. And the singer (drummer from Nirvana) has to be one of the most overhyped musicians ever.
Garbage
Nick Cave - Pretentious, badly-sung rubbish, and repetitive.
Nirvana - About as revolutionary as making crap music marketable.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:37 pm
by Cail
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
I like the Foo Fighters. A lot.
The first two Garbage albums are excellent.
I never got Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds.
Nirvana blew. Punk lite. Yuck.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:46 pm
by danlo
Foo Fighters - Yawn. And the singer (drummer from Nirvana) has to be one of the most overhyped musicians ever.
His name is Dave Grohl right? Yes he seems to have alot of influence in various musical circles. I recently watched some huge free concert on Direct TV, in England or somewhere like that--Fighters put on a pretty good show! (It's the Goo-Goo Dolls I'd rather do without.)
Yeah, but for all the pub Grohl gets, you'd think he was David Geffen (a wealthy music and movie producer) who is an arch enemy of Neil Young, who vehemently disagrees with his ideas of creative expression and merchandising...