Kevin's Watch

Dawngreeter wrote:Kevin's Watch could probably make a few bucks if a Google Ad was placed right at the top of the forum for FR, or the whole series for that matter.

shhhhhhhhhhhhh!

thats what I like about this site ... .it isnt commercial.

I ordered mine through a bokstore I deliver to. It's just a smalltown shop, not affiliated with any chain stores, no larger than my living room, with only one employee other than the owner...and they don't really sell fiction...they sell more thought provoking material...books on homosexuality, or comunism, or natice rights...stuff like that.

But the owner is a real friendly guy, and I told him I'd rather give him the business than Chapters. He liked that, and ordered FR for me. I don't know if he'll get in on the release date, but prbebly pretty close.

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I expect when it hits zero then this board will be a little quiet for a time.

Just finished my ARC of Fatal Revenant, and I really liked how Donaldson brought this one to an end.

Expect my spoiler-free review at some point on Monday. . .

Patrick
www.fantasyhotlist.blogspot.com

15 days!

Ya know, dlb: I stop in to see this thread every day because I *seriously* love your enthusiasm! Every time you count down another day I laugh!

Not long now! Not long now!!

*nod*

...precisely...

My full review is now live on the blog!

Patrick
www.fantasyhotlist.blogspot.com

How cool is this? We're bearing down on just over two weeks (plus delivery.) Something tells me even the English Store here in Stuttgart won't be carrying this one on release date.

And since I haven't posted what I'm doing for prep...

Re-read Runes. Decided I didn't remember enough details from the first two chrons and have started back on them. Just re-finished LFB and started on IEW today. Should finish it just about the time FR comes out.

Which is way sooner than I remembered. I think I blocked out that it was coming! YAY ME!

stutt

Pat5150, you told us to expect a SPOILER FREE review. Thanks a lot dude. I'll never read a thing you write ever again. Attention fellow Watch members: DO NOT READ THE REVIEW IF YOU WANT TO REMAIN SPOILER FREE.

Goddamn that pisses me off.

Hmm. I suppose there are a couple of things there that are a little spoilerish, but I wouldn't think it was enough to actually ruin the story. And certainly nowhere near as bad as the synopsis that was posted on Amazon UK.

Murrin wrote:Hmm. I suppose there are a couple of things there that are a little spoilerish, but I wouldn't think it was enough to actually ruin the story. And certainly nowhere near as bad as the synopsis that was posted on Amazon UK.

Well, a "little spoilerish" isn't "spoiler free" is it? I never read the Amazon synopsis. I didn't know:

Spoiler

They go back in time (again). There's a cadre of wizards who oppose the Elohim. I don't want to know where the fucking "showdown" is. I don't want to know that the ending is a cliffhanger (now I'll be reading the last few pages entirely differently, and it won't hit me with the same power because I'll be expecting a cliffhanger.

I didn't know:

Spoiler

Fatal Revenant answers many questions that were raised by its predecessor. Indeed, secrets about Kastenessen, the Durance, the skurj, the Giants, the Haruchai, Kevin's Dirt, the Elohim, Roger Covenant, the Demondim, the ur-viles, the Waynhim, and more are revealed. I don't want to know which questions are answered! Now I'll be reading, waiting for the exact moment when those are revealed.

Many here didn't know that the book picks up right at the end of Runes (there's been conjecture about exactly where/when it will begin.) Many here didn't know that the reunion of Linden and Covenant isn't a happy reunion--regardless of how familiar we are with Donaldson's work (sometimes authors deliberately play against our expectations).

Telling us where and when a story happens is a spoiler. Telling us about the existence of characters, and classes of characters, that we didn't expect is a spoiler. In short, telling us something that we wouldn't know unless we actually read the book is a SPOILER, just in case we're confused about the meaning of the word. "Spoiler free" would only contain things you can't get from reading the book, such as: did you like, or not.

I've managed to go three years without spoiling a single facet of this story. And now, two weeks before it's released, we get this. Thanks a lot, Pat.

He posted a spoiler-free review in the General Sci-Fi forum. (At least I *think* it was spoiler-free. I only glanced over it as I'm becoming spoiler-wary, too -- way too many people on this board have already read this book! )

aliantha wrote:He posted a spoiler-free review in the General Sci-Fi forum. (At least I *think* it was spoiler-free. I only glanced over it as I'm becoming spoiler-wary, too -- way too many people on this board have already read this book! )

Well, describing where/when it begins is a spoiler. Describing

Spoiler

the nature of Linden and Covenant's first meeting since his death--however vaguely--

is a spoiler. Some of us haven't even read the first 2 chapters, and don't want to know where/when it begins.

If Pat did more than simply post here to plug his own blog, I might be more inclined to overlook it as a simple error. But have you noticed that the regular members who don't have a blog to plug haven't spoiled one damn thing? Because they actually care about these books, rather than use this forum to advertise??

Malik23 wrote:Well, describing where/when it begins is a spoiler. Some of us haven't even read the first 2 chapters, and don't want to know where/when it begins.

Exactly. I suggested in the General Sci-Fi forum that the mods consider moving it to the FR forum, for precisely that reason.

And yeah, I think Pat is probably not the most careful reader of the forums he posts in....

(edited to cut Malik's spoiler, which got un-spoilered when I quoted it and didn't re-spoiler it. Yeesh. I can't *wait* for this freakin' book to come out!)

Malik23 wrote:Pat5150, you told us to expect a SPOILER FREE review. Thanks a lot dude. I'll never read a thing you write ever again. Attention fellow Watch members: DO NOT READ THE REVIEW IF YOU WANT TO REMAIN SPOILER FREE.

Goddamn that pisses me off.

Malik23,

Well, the review itself is not spoilerish. I put it through both Putnam and Gollancz, and if there was anything in there they didn't want, they would have told me. And yet, as I have written well over a hundred of what I consider to be spoiler-free reviews, I've never been requested by an editor/author/publicist/whatever to change anything whatsoever.

I agree with you that if you wish to go into this one with "virgin" eyes, then don't read the review. But based on the number of emails I've been receiving from fans since this morning, no one but you appears to feel this way.

Still, sorry if you found it off-putting. . . It happens sometimes with truly "hardcore" fans. I remember one Steven Erikson fan who wasn't happy with my review of Reaper's Gale. But as I write these things for a vaster audience, I guess there's no helping that. . .

Now I'm getting requests to flesh out my review more, and to include the two-paragraph synopsis of the book that was excised from the first draft. As you can see, there's no way for me to please everyone. I wish there was. . .

Patrick
www.fantasyhotlist.blogspot.com

Seareach wrote: Ya know, dlb: I stop in to see this thread every day because I *seriously* love your enthusiasm! Every time you count down another day I laugh!

Not long now! Not long now!!

Thus the reason for the countdown, to get us all fired up about this book!

15! Ah, ah, ah.

Excellent, Wayfriend...

That's the funniest possible way of looking at a 15 day wait. Bravo.