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Post by **variol son** » Sun May 21, 2006 7:43 am

Well, whilst we are on the subject of Stonedowns and Woodhelven (is that the correct plural, not sure), here's a question of sorts:

Six stonedowns and four woodhelven are mentioned in the entire chronicles so far - what are they and how do we know about them?

Post by **iQuestor** » Sun May 21, 2006 6:52 pm

Stonedowns
Mithil - By Kevins watch; this one is home to Lena and her family, among many others.

During - (sp?) Hamako's home. He relates to TC the fate of During and how he came to live among the Ur Viles

Crystal - Home to Holian, eh-brand of Crystal Stonedown

Gleam- overrun by Kresh, as related by Sunder

RevelStone - Not sure this counts as a stone down. Home of the Old Lords, New Lords, then the Clave, finally the BloodGuard

Woodhelvinn

Soaring Woodhelvinn- TC given the test of lianniarr here on his way to Revelstone; later burnt by Foul's minions.

StoneMight - Where TC escapes by commandign Vain; they have a fragment of the illearth stone in 2nd chrons.

Revelwood - New Lords built this as a counterpoint to Revelstone, as a place of study of LLianiar.

I am missing one or two....

Post by **dlbpharmd** » Sun May 21, 2006 8:20 pm

There were no kresh in 2nd Chronicles that I can recall. I thought the answer could be found in TPTP, but I can't find it now. There is no listing of "Gleam Stonedown" in any of the glossaries. I'm unconvinced.

Post by **variol son** » Mon May 22, 2006 5:49 am

iquestor wrote:Stonedowns
Mithil - By Kevins watch; this one is home to Lena and her family, among many others.

During - (sp?) Hamako's home. He relates to TC the fate of During and how he came to live among the Ur Viles

Crystal - Home to Holian, eh-brand of Crystal Stonedown

Gleam- overrun by Kresh, as related by Sunder

RevelStone - Not sure this counts as a stone down. Home of the Old Lords, New Lords, then the Clave, finally the BloodGuard

Woodhelvinn

Soaring Woodhelvinn- TC given the test of lianniarr here on his way to Revelstone; later burnt by Foul's minions.

StoneMight - Where TC escapes by commandign Vain; they have a fragment of the illearth stone in 2nd chrons.

Revelwood - New Lords built this as a counterpoint to Revelstone, as a place of study of LLianiar.

I am missing one or two....

That's four Stonedowns and two Woodhelven - Revelstone and Revelwood don't count.

dlbpharmd - I am looking for the chapter reference for Gleam Stonedown but having a little trouble. I'll let you know when I find it. Warmark, if you could help it would be good.

Post by **iQuestor** » Mon May 22, 2006 10:44 am

I am stumped on the last 2 of each. I remember a mention of another stonedown near Mirkwood or Garroting Deep, and the characters saying those people must have had some agreement with the forrestal in order to live there unopposed. But I do not remember the name.

Great question!

Post by **dlbpharmd** » Mon May 22, 2006 9:26 pm

Landsverge Stonedown - mentioned in WGW, it was decimated by Riders of the Clave.

Far Woodhelven - also from WGW, it was the first village visited by Sunder and Hollian leaving the Search at Seareach.

Post by **iQuestor** » Mon May 22, 2006 9:46 pm

Dang. I did know landsverge and forgot to add it. Didnt remember Far until you mentioned it, but would never have recalled the name.

As far as gleam, did anyone find the reference? I do seem to remember Sunder making such a comment, but dont want to re-read the entire second chrons to find it.

WarMark! where is the reference?

Post by **variol son** » Mon May 22, 2006 10:00 pm

Ah, only one of each left. Keep thinking peoples.

Have been skim reading The Wounded Land, but haven't found the reference yet. Warmark?

Post by **dlbpharmd** » Mon May 22, 2006 10:09 pm

Like I said before, I don't remember any kresh in 2nd Chronicles. None of the animals mentioned in 1st Chronicles make an appearance in 2nd (because of the Sunbane.)

I originally thought the answer must be in TPTP, and I thought that Triock must've been the person who told about it. However, I re-read the chapters where TC was summoned to the Land by Triock and Foamfollower, and the subsequent battle against the marauders in defense of Mithil Stonedown. I could not find anything about it there.

I'm starting to obsess over this, so Warmark, if you would be so kind......

Post by **iQuestor** » Tue May 23, 2006 1:41 am

Like I said before, I don't remember any kresh in 2nd Chronicles. None of the animals mentioned in 1st Chronicles make an appearance in 2nd (because of the Sunbane.)

Yes, now I am looking. I thought perhaps Hamako had said something in TPTP but nothing was found.

help!

Post by **variol son** » Tue May 23, 2006 3:04 am

I am sure it is in the second chronicles, and either Sudner Hollian or Hamako talk about it - I'll start skimming through White Gold Wielder tonight.

Post by **dlbpharmd** » Tue May 23, 2006 10:35 am

In WGW when Sunder and Hollian are reunited with the Search, Sunder mentions several villages but only Far Woodhelven and Landsverge Stonedown are named.

Post by **variol son** » Tue May 23, 2006 10:28 pm

Hmmm, annoying. Warmark - hurry up!

I know the references for the other two though - the last stonedown and the last woodhelven. Anyone found them yet?

I'll give you a clue - the stonedown is in the Second Chronicles, the woodhelven in the First.

Post by **dlbpharmd** » Tue May 23, 2006 10:32 pm

I think Warmark has skipped town on us.

Post by **Warmark** » Mon May 29, 2006 7:00 pm

Heh, sorry for taking so long to get back - Pc Died last week only got it fixed now.

Gleam Stonedown is correct.
But you have the reference wrong.

It is from Triocks chapter in TPTP - Message to Revelstone i believe. Also it is only mentioned in passing.

I'll go and find the exact quote now.

Post by **Warmark** » Mon May 29, 2006 7:21 pm

OK : Exact quote page 893 ( Message to Revelstone TPTP Chapter 7 )of my paperback 1st Chrons.

Triock had never had to fight kresh, but he had seen what they could do. A year ago, one huge pack had annihilated the whole population of Gleam Stonedown, in the crystal hills near the joining of the Black and Mithil rivers : and when Triock had walked through the deserted village he had found nothing but rent clothes and splinters of bone.

Post by **dlbpharmd** » Mon May 29, 2006 9:39 pm

Thanks, Warmark - and congratulations on stumping us!

Post by **variol son** » Mon May 29, 2006 11:34 pm

Thanks Warmark.

Now, can anyone guess the last stonedown and woodhelven? Here's the list of the ones we have so far:

Mithil Stonedown
During Stonedown
Crystal Stonedown
Landsverge Stonedown
Gleam Stonedown

Soaring Woodhelven
Stonemight Woodhelven
Far Woodhelven

Clue 1 - The last stonedown is in the second chronicles and the last woodhelven is in the first chronicles.

Clue 2 - Lord Foul's Bane and The Wounded Land are the books to check.

Happy hunting

Post by **dlbpharmd** » Tue May 30, 2006 1:11 am

Windshorn Stonedown - raided the crops of Mithil Stonedown prior to Covenant's arrival in the Land, in TWL.

Post by **variol son** » Tue May 30, 2006 3:04 am

Excellent work Don.

I'll give you a third clue on the last woodhelven, as it isn't mentioned in the glossary at all. It appears but once in Lord Foul's Bane in the second half of the book, after Covenant reaches Revelstone.

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