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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:59 am
by Peven
don't get me wrong, i think he loved the Land, but like the way i love my dog, i don't think my dog is my equal. he has this condescending paternal attitude towards the people of the Land.
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:38 am
by Ur Dead
Hile Troy's life in his world was one of darkness. He made the most of it by developing his mind. But he couldn't see and he could partake of the normal things people could.
He was in a fire when his translation occured. He was most probably burned but survived and was healed by the the Lords. Hurtloam did a wonderful thing to him. Not only it healed the burns, it gave him the ability to see.
Not with a set of eyes but thru his mind he could preceive object, colors and beauty. He couldn't go back and to what end? So the Land gained a convert, a strategist where swords, spear and arrow were the weapons of the day. Plus the magic that Eartpower gave to people. He totally immersed himself into believing. He believe he could win.
Until Kevin's watch. Until he saw Foul's army. He needed an advantage. That is where Garoting Deeps came into play. But he couldn't summon the Forrestal. But he was willing to pay any price to save the army in his care. Without asking for any conditions, he wanted his army to live. This shown he had a love of the Land and it's people.
His miscaculation was Foul.
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:38 am
by stormrider
Ur Dead wrote:His miscaculation was Foul.
And that's a pretty common miscalculation.
Personally, I always liked Hile Troy, despite the fact that his battle plan was naive and optimistic to the point of stupidity.
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:21 am
by emotional leper
stormrider wrote:Ur Dead wrote:His miscaculation was Foul.
And that's a pretty common miscalculation.
Personally, I always liked Hile Troy, despite the fact that his battle plan was naive and optimistic to the point of stupidity.
I thought naivety and optimism to the point of stupidity were the best weapons against Foul?

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:34 pm
by KAY1
Peven wrote:don't get me wrong, i think he loved the Land, but like the way i love my dog, i don't think my dog is my equal. he has this condescending paternal attitude towards the people of the Land.
I agree. I really didn't like Troy's attitude to the Land and its people. he also seemed to act like he 'owned' them or something. I know he appeared all grateful because the Land gave him sight etc but he did seem to think he was superior in some way.
I can kind of see where he is coming from though. I imagine if I found myself translated to the Land I would also see our world as better in some ways, as in more advanced. But that doesn't make it any more agreeable or likeable!
I never really got the same feeling from TC.
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:47 pm
by Relayer
Emotional Leper wrote:I thought naivety and optimism to the point of stupidity were the best weapons against Foul?

Well, they certainly work well for Geraden

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:52 pm
by emotional leper
Relayer wrote:Emotional Leper wrote:I thought naivety and optimism to the point of stupidity were the best weapons against Foul?

Well, they certainly work well for Geraden

Who?
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:58 pm
by KAY1
Geraden is a character in the Mordant's Need books. He is very clumsy and inept as well as sunny natured and optimistic.
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:59 pm
by emotional leper
KAY1 wrote:Geraden is a character in the Mordant's Need books. He is very clumsy and inept as well as sunny natured and optimistic.
Ah.