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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:42 am
by Cord Hurn
Hunchback Jack wrote:Of whom did Hashi Lebwohl say, "If (he) didn't exist, it would have been necessary to invent him"?
Is it Warden Dios? |W

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:19 pm
by Hunchback Jack
No, not Angus ... although that's an intriguing possibility, isn't it?

Hint: I think it's fair to say that it's not one of the main characters, but it is a character that is quite well-known in the world of this series.

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:22 pm
by Hunchback Jack
Cord Hurn wrote:
Hunchback Jack wrote:Of whom did Hashi Lebwohl say, "If (he) didn't exist, it would have been necessary to invent him"?
Is it Warden Dios? |W
No, not Warden, either. That would have been my first guess, too.

HBJ

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:53 am
by Avatar
Godsen Frik?

:D

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Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:32 pm
by Cord Hurn
Is it Holt Fasner?

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:40 pm
by IrrationalSanity
My first guess is Sixten Vertigus.

Otherwise, The Bill.

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:49 am
by Hunchback Jack
IrrationalSanity wrote:My first guess is Sixten Vertigus.

Otherwise, The Bill.
Correct!
As the first human being ever to lay eyes on an Amnioni, he was a legendary figure. On that occasion, he had demonstrated his willingness to die for his beliefs. In addition his unfailing support of the UMCP, combined with his unswerving opposition to the UMC, gave him an aura of moral authority. He was the "esteemed elder statesman" of the GCES. As Hashi Lebwohl had once said, with his usual double-edged humor, "If Captain Vertigus didn't exist, it would have been necessary to invent him."

Excerpt From: Stephen R. Donaldson. "A Dark and Hungry God Arises: The Gap Into Power."
Your question, IS.

HBJ

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:54 pm
by IrrationalSanity
OK. Sticking with Hashi for the moment...

What was the key attribute that made Hashi such an effective liar?

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:27 am
by Avatar
He had no emotional attachment to the truth?

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Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:37 am
by IrrationalSanity
Avatar wrote:He had no emotional attachment to the truth?

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I think I may have to give that to you. It isn't the description I was looking for, but now that you bring it up, it "rings" true, as far as being mentioned in the same page or so as what I was thinking about. I don't have my books handy to verify, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:18 am
by Avatar
Damn. :lol:

Ok...

Who does Warden Dios order to discover who sent the kazes, and who must they inform once they know?

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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:05 pm
by Hunchback Jack
Did Warden assign Min Donner to investigate, to report to Hashi Lebwohl?

HBJ

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:53 am
by Cord Hurn
I think Warden orders Hashi Lebwohl and Lane Harbinger to investigate, and to inform Min Donner about their research results.

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:09 am
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Hashi is one of the investigators, but the other is neither Min nor Lane, nor were they to report to Min. :D

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Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:49 pm
by Savor Dam
Is Chief Mandich the other investigator and Koina the person to whom they report?

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:09 am
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And SD has it. :D

Your question. :D

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Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:10 pm
by Savor Dam
Shortly after Min returns to UMCPHQ from visiting Captain Vertigus, she meets with Warden. In that conversation, he tells her, in part:
...it's the only lever I have with the Dragon. It's the kind of collusion he understands. It implicates me. More than anything I've ever done, that convinced him to trust me -- convinced him to let me make my own decisions.
What is Warden referring to?

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 1:37 am
by Cord Hurn
Savor Dam wrote:Shortly after Min returns to UMCPHQ from visiting Captain Vertigus, she meets with Warden. In that conversation, he tells her, in part:
...it's the only lever I have with the Dragon. It's the kind of collusion he understands. It implicates me. More than anything I've ever done, that convinced him to trust me -- convinced him to let me make my own decisions.
What is Warden referring to?
Perhaps Warden is here referring to the development of the mutagen immunity drug and suppressing the knowledge that such a drug exists? :?:

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:04 am
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I believe that that is indeed what he is referring to. :)

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Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:37 pm
by Savor Dam
Yes, we have a winner.
I didn't quash Intertech's research. I took it away. The order I signed was just a sham. I took the research and gave it to Hashi. He completed it himself.
[...]
That was my idea. Fasner wanted to stop the whole project. I persuaded him to let Hashi finish it -- to let me have it and keep it secret.

But it's the only lever I have with the Dragon. It's the kind of collusion he understands. It implicates me. More than anything I've ever done, that convinced him to trust me -- convinced him to let me make my own decisions.
Your question, CH, when the rare critter hunt permits you the time.