Kevin's Watch

Cail wrote:It was from his wee-wee.

That would suck, and not in the good, fun way.

I guess there are worse things than having 5 pounds to give from your wee-wee.

exnihilo wrote:I guess there are worse things than having 5 pounds to give from your wee-wee.

"It's naht a two-mah!"

dw

DukkhaWaynhim wrote:No offense taken. Other than the occasional tennis match, I've never been anything close to athletic, so I'm pleased with myself already, and it just keeps getting better!
I'm not training for marathons, or looking to climb plastic rocks, though - I just want to live a long time, feel good, look good, and have lots of energy. If I can rock that at 175, 180, or 185, that's cool - whatever works. My wish list includes having a six-pack long enough to photograph it for my own personal record book - but I doubt my lifestyle will support a long-term six-pack. Maybe a 2-liter

I've utterly given up on the 6-pack idea.

My main goal is to live long enough to torment my great-grandchildren.

DukkhaWaynhim wrote:Don't know much about nutrient timing, but it makes sense that your activity just before/after eating would have some effect on how your body treats the latest meal; e.g., I'm a big believer in the no-food-within-3hrs-of-bedtime rule. It worked pretty dramatically for me, and I sleep better because of it.

Benchmark - DW is now consistently below 200lbs! Not too bad for a 6'2" guy, eh? My goal is 180-185, which I am assuming I can achieve and maintain without looking or acting like a man-waif

dw

There's really no evidence that the timing of when you eat relative to sleep, exercise, or what-have-you makes any difference in how your body metabolizes the food.

Whether or not you get enough sleep or exercise does have an effect.

I am a big fan of each person doing what works for you personally.

(As long as it is not dangerous or unhealthy.)

MsMary, it is very possible that following the no-food-within-3hrs-of-bedtime rule is just a different form of calorie restriction - I may essentially be avoiding stuffing my face mindlessly while in front of the television (a typical pre-bedtime activity in our Waymeet).
However, running first thing in the morning before any breakfast, works for me - I have this picture in my head of sleepy fat being shocked back to glycogen to feed the morning run as my glycogen store is more quickly depleted before breakfast. Whether this is biochemically accurate or not is purely speculative... but I like the results I'm getting, so science can bite me.

Cail, I've heard that body type, genetics, and to a much lesser extent, age affects whether one can achieve six-pack abs. I'm 35, and I don't know yet if I'm capable of it - or if its genetic or just my lack of will-power; however, when I flex now, I can see the first hints of a defining ridge in the center. This is heartening. The actual six-pack, however, is still hidden behind a twenty year old layer of Doritos and PizzaHut ...but I'm working on it.

dw

The ab muscles are there, and I probably do have a 6-pack under there somewhere. I just can't get the left-over flab and skin to go away.

Sources like Mens Health give the impression that all us guys (who are not sessile) have a six-pack, if only we can lose enough body fat to uncover them. The problem is that if we are either an exomorph with an average amount of body fat, or any type of mesomorph or endomorph with >2% body fat, then we have little chance of partially or totally uncovering them.
...and only cover models have the time and impetus to get down to 1-2% body fat - because it is their JOB.
The rest of us are SOL.

dw

DukkhaWaynhim wrote:MsMary, it is very possible that following the no-food-within-3hrs-of-bedtime rule is just a different form of calorie restriction - I may essentially be avoiding stuffing my face mindlessly while in front of the television (a typical pre-bedtime activity in our Waymeet).
However, running first thing in the morning before any breakfast, works for me - I have this picture in my head of sleepy fat being shocked back to glycogen to feed the morning run as my glycogen store is more quickly depleted before breakfast. Whether this is biochemically accurate or not is purely speculative... but I like the results I'm getting, so science can bite me.

That's exactly what I mean when I say you have to do what works for you.

DukkhaWaynhim wrote:Cail, I've heard that body type, genetics, and to a much lesser extent, age affects whether one can achieve six-pack abs. I'm 35, and I don't know yet if I'm capable of it - or if its genetic or just my lack of will-power; however, when I flex now, I can see the first hints of a defining ridge in the center. This is heartening. The actual six-pack, however, is still hidden behind a twenty year old layer of Doritos and PizzaHut ...but I'm working on it.

dw

I would think age would affect it more than genetics, but I haven't looked at that in detail anywhere.

Cail wrote:The ab muscles are there, and I probably do have a 6-pack under there somewhere. I just can't get the left-over flab and skin to go away.

Laugh away.....If I had a few thousand dollars burning a hole in my pocket, I'd run to a plastic surgeon to remove the excess skin so I could show off all the work I've done!

You think *you've* got excess skin?? When I get to where I need to be, I may be putting some plastic surgeon's kid through college....

I'm kicking myself for not embarking on this fitness kick 10 years ago, back when my skin was still elastic.

Well, at least it's easier to kick yourself now.

dw

Very true.

Ahhhh, youth is wasted on the young.

Cail wrote:

I'm kicking myself for not embarking on this fitness kick 10 years ago, back when my skin was still elastic.

Cail, it wouldn't matter that much if you were younger. If you have a significant amount of extra skin from being fat (like having an apron), then even if you came down to 10% body fat, you would still have an excess of skin after your skin 'shrank' back to normal.

So am I mistaken in thinking that small to moderate amounts of excess skin will 'go away' over time as it is no longer needed? I know people who immediately start chatting up the plastic surgeons after they've made their big bariatric surgery losses - but I had the impression that at least some of that excess skin would go away on its own, given time.

dw

DukkhaWaynhim wrote:So am I mistaken in thinking that small to moderate amounts of excess skin will 'go away' over time as it is no longer needed? I know people who immediately start chatting up the plastic surgeons after they've made their big bariatric surgery losses - but I had the impression that at least some of that excess skin would go away on its own, given time.

dw

Some will.

Most of it might.

All of it will not.

It also depends on what you consider 'small to moderate.'

Yeah, try having a baby or two. The skin on my abdomen will never go back to the way it was in my youth, no matter how much I exercise.

However, I would settle with losing some of that abdominal fat, so I look and feel better. And it's healthier to lose that fat in the long run.

And Cail, I wasn't really laughing at you. I was laughing with you. I totally empathize with the sentiment you expressed in your post.

Ok, drastic lifestyle change is now being enforced that should lead the way to weight reduction.
I got a job in the city in which I live so I have chosen to ride my bike to work but weight loss is secondary behind the $20/day to park downtown and I can never find parking again when I return home.
Also it's so busy at work I don't have time to eat and the job is such an ass buster I don't really feel like it anyway. This coupled with the fact that I'm too bushed to cook a mess of food when I get home and so tired I go to bed around 9:30 so I'm unable snack my face off late at night may lead to gettin' skinny again.
I am a bit concerned with the skin/stretch mark issue since I put the weight on so quickly and may take it off pretty fast but health before beauty I figure.

Well, some of the pregnant ladies I know swear by special moisturizer creams that are for reducing the look of stretch marks--- what I don't know is if this works after the stretching has already occurred. If this becomes an issue, eventually I'll be able to tell you one way or the other...

dw