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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 3:13 pm
by Myste
I definitely agree that Kerry flogged his service for every ounce of political capital it was worth--and did as much harm to himself as good. And certainly took attention away from what was really important.

And I see your point about how things change over time. I just think that without historical context, our whole position--politically, militarily, what have you--in the Middle East is meaningless. (And, to put my bias on the table, I don't like Rumsfeld's handling of the war. :))

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 3:23 pm
by Cail
I agree with your point about context, but the Kerry campaign never hammered Rumsfeld about GWI or Vietnam. They probably should have.

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 3:33 pm
by Myste
As it happens, I agree with you 100%. :D They should have hired me to work on the campaign.

Of course, the problem is that while I'm a liberal Dem, Kerry was not my number one choice. (Howard, Howard, you howling fool!) Except for 1 thing. When I was 12, my great-aunt "adopted" a humped-back whale for me for Christmas, and I went in big on the whole "Save The Whales" thing. John Kerry was a major supporter of the bill that eventually created the Stellwagen Bank Whale Sanctuary. I wrote him a letter asking him to support it, along the lines of "Dear Senator, I am 12, Please save the whales." He wrote me back a personal note telling me he would save the whales. And the bill eventually passed.

What can I say? That, my friends, is politics. Gettem while they're young, save their adopted whales, and when they grow up, they'll vote for you. Now that I'm older, I know I was "got" when I was 12. But I'd wanted to save the whales long before that. :D

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 3:36 pm
by Loredoctor
That is a nice story.

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 3:38 pm
by Cail
Yeah, Dean was at least driving home the issues, shame he was such a hothead. The American people would never elect someone that angry.

Why oh why do both parties keep putting up such lousy candidates? Why do we keep accepting them?

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 3:49 pm
by Myste
That is the most important question I've heard in a long time--

Why do we continually put up with this crap? Isn't there anyone out there who's actually worthy of being President? With whom one may respectfully agree or disagree, and not get called names for it?

The answer: Of course there is. But that person is way too smart to want to be President. Anyone who wants the job should automatically be disqualified from getting it.

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 8:26 am
by Avatar
Myste wrote:...But that person is way too smart to want to be President. Anyone who wants the job should automatically be disqualified from getting it.
Well said Myste. I've often thought that those most desirous of such power are probably those least qualified to wield it.

Wanting that power so desperately must cast doubts on a persons ability to be unaffected by it.

--A

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 8:35 am
by Loredoctor
Shouldn't a mod move this thread to think tank?

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:55 am
by dANdeLION
Yeah, until we make a "Flogging a Dead Horse" forum, Think Tank is the most appropriate. :mrgreen:

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 11:36 am
by Loredoctor
LOL! very clever.

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 12:50 pm
by dANdeLION
Thank you, Grandmaster B.

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:14 pm
by Myste
dANdeLION wrote:Yeah, until we make a "Flogging a Dead Horse" forum, Think Tank is the most appropriate. :mrgreen:
What else is there to do with a dead horse? :D Besides putting it to good use in a glue factory, and making it into dog food, and covering club chairs with its hide...

Oh.

Never mind.