Kevin's Watch

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I saw that on another board yesterday. It's great to see one of my favorite book's melded with one of my kids favorite bedtime stories.

Awesome

Incidently, Iron Maiden did a song about Dune. Being who I am, I had to point it out

Orlion wrote:Awesome

Incidently, Iron Maiden did a song about Dune. Being who I am, I had to point it out

Not the best Maiden tune ever, lyrics done by a 3 year old.
Why do metal bands suck so much at storytelling songs? [Except Queensryche "Operation: Mindcrime" and a fair amount of Rush, if ya wanna call Rush metal.

Vraith wrote:

Orlion wrote:Awesome

Incidently, Iron Maiden did a song about Dune. Being who I am, I had to point it out

Not the best Maiden tune ever, lyrics done by a 3 year old.
Why do metal bands suck so much at storytelling songs? [Except Queensryche "Operation: Mindcrime" and a fair amount of Rush, if ya wanna call Rush metal.

How dare you-! Yeah, the lyrics are pretty ridiculous. The tune itself I enjoy, but to answer why the lyrics to such songs tend to suck... I'd say it's because they don't divorce themselves from the source material too much. For example, this Iron Maiden song can not exist without the existence of Dune, it loses all meaning without reference to the book it's based on. 2112, on the other hand, though it is based heavily on Anthem is also its own song. It stands on its own.

Then you have songs like Hyperion by Keldian. I think it could aside from its source (The Hyperion Cantos by Dan Simmons), but there is considerably more meaning when considered together.

Orlion wrote:
Then you have songs like Hyperion by Keldian. I think it could aside from its source (The Hyperion Cantos by Dan Simmons), but there is considerably more meaning when considered together.

That's actually not so bad.
I've actually wanted to do lyrics/singing for a Dune set, [think mid-east tones/scales, metal instrumentation, far east rhythms] double album per book or so, since I ran across Alan Parson's Project doing Poe and Asimov.
Also Industrial/Techno mixed with blues/gospel for Attanasio's Radix books.
Never knew musicians who'd go for it, though.

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My son requests I read Goodnight Moon to him every night.

Maybe I should read this instead...

Orlion wrote:For example, this Iron Maiden song can not exist without the existence of Dune, it loses all meaning without reference to the book it's based on.

They asked Herbert for permission to do the song as a tribute to his book, and he refused. That's why it's called To Tame A Land and not something Dune-related. And IIRC, he bitched about them using some of the terms from it too.

--A

I first read Dune when I was 11. There's nothing like it.

Here are my impressions formed by the time I was 15.

Dune Messiah: anticlimactic and baffling
Children: pretty cool
God Emperor: really cool
Heretics: weird but interesting
Chapterhouse: baffling

15 years later the Brian Herbert / Kevin Anderson books came out. Blechh! Wish I can unread them.

I still re-read the Covenant chronicles. The One tree probably 15 times.

I had read DUNE MESSIAH half a dozen times before I appreciated it. Now I consider it well worth the occasional reread.

Part of what I love is the lethal grandeur of Dune, and when it changed, after CHILDREN, I don't relate to the series as intensely.

I still don't like Messiah. But god Emperor is my favourite, after the original.

--A

Starfire 152 wrote:I first read Dune when I was 11. There's nothing like it.

Here are my impressions formed by the time I was 15.

Dune Messiah: anticlimactic and baffling
Children: pretty cool
God Emperor: really cool
Heretics: weird but interesting
Chapterhouse: baffling

15 years later the Brian Herbert / Kevin Anderson books came out. Blechh! Wish I can unread them.

I still re-read the Covenant chronicles. The One tree probably 15 times.

Chapterhouse I thought was a great beginning of the conclusion book...and then he didn't finish. I haven't dared read the Son/Anderson conclusion books cuz the prequels were just....wrong.

Yeah, I decided not to read either the prequels or the "sequels."

The canononical issues others told me about were too off-putting.

--A

So I'm reading Dune for the first time right now, and it's probably a bit early for judgement, but my impression so far is, well, that it's not particularly well written, the books been very vague so far on what Bene Gesserit or a Mentats actually are, and Paul and Jessica come across as a little stupider than the book apparently wants me to think...

Herbert isn't a great one for explaining. A lot of stuff you have to infer from context.

--A

And at least a degree of info is given. Are you on Arrakis yet?

Yes, I'm past the first attempt on Paul's life just after they arrive. It's their responses to the attack and the warnings that make me think they seem a little stupid.

The edition of this I'm reading is pretty terrible. There are lots of missing quotation marks, and typos here and there. In several places "they" "the" and "that" have been mixed up. It's the Hodder Great Reads edition - avoid it!

Wonderful... *shakes head*

Burn it and get a preper copy!