Kevin's Watch

Give Kate Beckinsale a couple more decades and she'll be a possible Min.

GREAT CHOICE, Dragonlilly! She'd be perfect.

robo wrote:I suppose I'm just listing some of my favorite actors here...

Morn: Franka Potente (hopefully she can do an American accent)

Angus: Bruce Willis (uglified)

Nick: Johnny Depp

Holt: Ben Kingsley

Warden Dios: Anthony Hopkins

Mikka: Sigourney Weaver

Vector: Robert Duvall

Milos: Ralph Fiennes

Min: Jodie Foster

Hashi: Christopher Walken (a bit tall though)

That's a damn good list, though. I'd still have to work on Morn and Angus though - I'd probably replace them with:

Angus - Harvey Keitel (he has been so convincingly corrupt - see "Bad Lieutenant") though he's probably too old now.

Morn - Uma Thurman basically played this character in the "Kill Bill" duology.

I think Jude Law could maybe play Nick, but might be too pretty.

extravirgin wrote:Vincent D'Onofrio would make and awesome Angus.

I agree with Sigourney and Mikka.

Vector - Forrst Whittaker

Nick - George Clooney

Holt - Christopher Walken

cant think of any more... it's a hard one

Sorry, I'm reading this catch-up style, so I'm responding to suggestions as I see them. I LOVE Whittaker as Vector - he has the requisite kindness and competence. No need to make the cast all-white, SRD would say "get the right person, regardless" I'm sure.

Dutch wrote:I'm goin' out on a limb here: I know SRD wrote it but...I still don't agree. Sigourney as Sorus? Yes, I can see that. Vin Diesel as Angus? No. I just can't see it. (Sorry, Stephen) Mr. Diesel hasn't got a frog face, isn't fat and is not very loud, and last I checked his eyes were silvery, not yellow. I'm just going by what I read in the text. No, really!
But it is said, it's really up to the readers to visualize what they read. So my opinion isn't any more or less valid than someone else's, even the writer's. *smile*


-Dutch

www.mistythemouse.com

I am 100% with you against Vin Diesel - no way does he have the acting chops to play this character. He can play superficial slimyness but I don't think he could look haunted - he's always too strong and heroic.

Byrn wrote:I don't think Lillith has the physical presence needed fro Min. Min must appear threatening.

I think if you strapped a pistol to her side, and let her be chillingly soft-spoken, she'd kill in that role. Not everyone has to be physically threatening to be scary/tough.

Nathan wrote:What happened to Brent Spiner as Hashi?

He has the look of a trickster whilst appearing intelligent.

and just a little off his nut, as well.

Cail wrote:Facially Sinise looks right, but he's too small for the way I picture Angus.

In a movie, this doesn't matter at all. A good director can make this work. By the way, who would film this almighty mess? It would almost have to be a foreign director who could handle the darkness and griminess of it all.

aha, here we go: Lars Von Trier (Dancer in the Dark)

Yeah, I never thought of Uma as Morn before. That's nearly perfect. Plus, she might be willing to go through the hardship of playing that character, as it would almost certainly get to you.

And Lars has definitely done this work in this area (like in say, "Breaking the Waves"). But I haven't seen him tinker in the world of Sci Fi. I wonder if he would.

I've never been able to figure out Angus. Steve Buscemi comes to mind for the physicality, if he'd gain some weight, but his acting style isn't it at all. I think his fangy teeth lend something that would be good for the character, but he is definitely too skinny, and he would have to totally change his usual acting style to become Angus. If he did it well, it would almost certainly be Oscar-worthy, but probably creep out so many people they couldn't see him in the same light.

As for Nick......


Ahh...a little too cheery.

Cillian Murphy as Hashi.

Re-reading the series, I will share my casting choices thus far:

Angus: I can't help but 'see' that guy who played the fat bad guy in the Dune movie (by Lynch). THAT is Angus to me.

Nick: Brad Pitt, hands down

Morn: Anjelie Jolie (sp). She can be vulnerable, and we all know she can be cunning and strong!

Holt: a slightly younger John Malkovich

Warden Dios: Anthony Hopkins (another great choise someone stole from my brain)

Mikka: Jodi Foster

Min: Sharon Stone (I think of her from the role in 'The Quick & the Dead')

Hashi: Ben Kingsley

Usivius wrote:Angus: I can't help but 'see' that guy who played the fat bad guy in the Dune movie (by Lynch). THAT is Angus to me.

That would be Kenneth McMillan. And if he were younger, I would say he's an excellent choice.

Usivius wrote:Morn: Anjelie Jolie (sp). She can be vulnerable, and we all know she can be cunning and strong!

She's certainly one of the few women capable of playing such a complex role.

Usivius wrote:Warden Dios: Anthony Hopkins (another great choise someone stole from my brain)

Um ... that would be SRD.

Usivius wrote:Min: Sharon Stone (I think of her from the role in 'The Quick & the Dead')

Good going. I'd forgotten she is getting up to the years where she could play this.

Usivius wrote:Hashi: Ben Kingsley

Chants: "Russell Crowe. Peta Wilson. Liam Neeson. Brent Spiner."

Vincent D'Onofrio as Angus...I could see that. Hopkins would look cool with an eyepatch. Still have to go with Jennifer Connely as Morn--yes your av could make a good Hashi Loremaster!

Albert Einstein as Hashi:-)

But seriously, somehow I've always pictured him like that.

Hmm, I'm liking a lot of these new suggestions actually. Without looking back at all the other cast lists I've posted I'm gonna make a new one:

Angus: After seeing Sin City I think Micky Rourke would be just perfect.

Morn: Franke Potente is one of my favourite actresses at the moment, and I think she could do a great job. Jennifer Connelly though, is an accomplished actress who looks so much like I imagined Morn.

Nick: I'm not gonna budge from Cole Hauser. I can't think of anyone else who can be both dashing and sleazy at the same time. Essential for Nick I feel.

Warden: Ben Kingsley. He's perhaps too slight of build to play either Warden or Holt, but he has a calmly rational air that I associate more with the former.

Holt: I find I keep coming back to Michael McKean and I don't really know why.

Mikka: I quite like Lisa Ryder from Andromeda for this part. She really exudes the big, strong and incredibly competent woman thing as Beka.

Vector: It's interesting that you should suggest Forest Whittaker. I initially imagined Vector as black and was surprised to find out, on my second reading, that he is blond with blue eyes. I'd like to see Whittaker in the role though.

Milos: As far as I'm concerned, Wayne Knight is Milos Taverner (well, in appearance and manner anyway).

Sorus: I think Sigourney Weaver would be good, but I suppose that's dependent on whether you find her attractive or not.

Min: I'd never thought of Jodie Foster, but she's another one of my favourites. I can imagine a few of Min's scenes where that clenched jaw thing she does would be great.

Hashi: Another tough one, I think Edward Woodward would be good but I don't think he's working on films anymore.

Excellent choices, folks!

I could easily trade Rourke (my fav actor) for D'Onfrio.

Nav, I'll go with you on Ben Kingsley, but I would be more inclined to put him as Holt. Holt's Napoleon complex suggests he could be small. My first choice for Holt, Stephen McHattie, is also small.

Anyway, Ben Kingsley can do anything.

I could never choose a Mykka. Radha Mitchell is the best I could do. Lisa Ryder is a good choice too.

I'm not sure, but I think I was the first one on KW to suggest Forrest Whitaker as Vector. I know I was the first one on the SRD Yahoo list. He's perfect.

I think everyone's suggestions for Min are too young. FORBIDDEN KNOWLEDGE:

She was tall, handsome, and lean, with streaks of gray in her jet hair, an uncompromising mouth, and hot eyes.

is there an SRD yahoo list?

A small one at stephenrdonaldson@yahoogroups.com

There hasn't been much conversation on it since I came here. Khaliban and I were the steady posters, and neither of us has said anything there in quite some time.