Pantheon 2.0 - Game Thread
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O-gon-cho
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I understand brother. Such a decision is not unexpected.Lord Adomorn wrote:I see that Murphys Law will be allowed to ravage unnopposed. I will have to decline your generous offer, Sister. I have very little of my best people to spare at the moment to become riders.
You are still welcome to watch the event from above, if desired. If all does go well, perhaps you would consider sending candidates to the next Hatching.
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I have to agree with Adomorn's point, O-gon-cho.
Therefore, I regret that I will not be sending candidates. I have traders and merchants who will do better making money and keeping trade alive and well in Eiran.
I would be interested to watch the proceedings from above.
I understand this position entirely. However, I am not willing to put my followers in the way of Asta's followers whom he admits are murderers. Because of the rules of engagement that have been discussed with the All Fatherer and Hedra Iren, I would not be allowed retribution for some time while Asta - being the young god that he is - would able to do as he pleased without penalty. He has said many times that he is out to destroy everyone and everything and I will choose to take him at his word. I do not however, have to make it easy for him.I can not extend power to either protect or influence the candidates, hatchlings, or Impressions. I have asked the AllFather to try and guarantee the same from other deities. Their FREEDOM and WILL to choose and act as they will must remain intact.
Therefore, I regret that I will not be sending candidates. I have traders and merchants who will do better making money and keeping trade alive and well in Eiran.
I would be interested to watch the proceedings from above.
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O-gon-cho
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I understand, m'lady. For some reason, I am trusting AK on this. Call me a fool...
The season of mating flights is only two turns away after the Hatching, and then clutch, and then Hatching again the following Fall. It is not all that long before eggs harden and I will put out a call for candidates again.
Blessings to the AllFather to see the Hatchings, Impressions, and training through without incident. I understand the Pantheon's hesitation, and hope to prove their misgivings wrong.
I am saddened that it appears the only candidates that will stand on the Grounds are followers of AK and myself. Not all of my followers can stand on the grounds, I need residents to run the weyr. It will collapse if all in the weyr were Riders.
I believe there are anywhere from 600 to 1200 viable eggs on the Grounds. It is a shame to not offer each weyrling a choice at a weyrmate..
But, my beloved, Raucous, was non-Impressed until after he turned three years old, graduated from weyrling training, and found my egg. :::tender smile::: So, there is hope they will find weyrmates after they graduate from weyrling training.
:::off to recall our bonding flight:::
The season of mating flights is only two turns away after the Hatching, and then clutch, and then Hatching again the following Fall. It is not all that long before eggs harden and I will put out a call for candidates again.
Blessings to the AllFather to see the Hatchings, Impressions, and training through without incident. I understand the Pantheon's hesitation, and hope to prove their misgivings wrong.
I am saddened that it appears the only candidates that will stand on the Grounds are followers of AK and myself. Not all of my followers can stand on the grounds, I need residents to run the weyr. It will collapse if all in the weyr were Riders.
I believe there are anywhere from 600 to 1200 viable eggs on the Grounds. It is a shame to not offer each weyrling a choice at a weyrmate..
But, my beloved, Raucous, was non-Impressed until after he turned three years old, graduated from weyrling training, and found my egg. :::tender smile::: So, there is hope they will find weyrmates after they graduate from weyrling training.
:::off to recall our bonding flight:::
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O-gon-cho wrote:Vadhaka wrote:Fool.
:::I can't believe it took this long for someone to do that:::
i should have said so sooner but i believe you make a greater mistake than your little flirtation with the likes of Chaos, O-gon-cho.
you treat your followers as beasts of burden, having them carry around humans. its a wonder they still follow you at all!
the race of dragons has fallen far.
...and on the last day we feasted, like carrion, on her dreams.
~Irvea - from The Death of Mithyaat Vam
~Irvea - from The Death of Mithyaat Vam
Melirelle
Goddess of Dreams, are you so lofty as to assume you can judge your peers or the choices of mortals? Do you accuse the Goddess of Light of having reduced the stature of dragons?
What arrogance in your words... in your accusations against one who, until now, has done nothing but try to offer kindness and help to ALL gods. And what arrogance in assuming - ah, this is a common trait among gods, it seems! - that she is the one who forces dragons to behave this way. Have you even stopped to consider not only that dragons might CHOOSE this path - something the Goddess of Light has made clear, time and again - but also that she might have a more intimate understanding of this race than you ever will?
Truly, which of the Pantheon has the authority to complain about another god's actions, when said actions do not affect him at all? If this is the path the Pantheon is taking, how long before one takes exception to the choice of dreams you send to the God of Death's followers, or to the distribution of wealth according to the Goddess of Trade's wishes? Think of this, before you throw stones at innocent gods.
Goddess of Light, in recognition of the honesty of your offer, I shall send some of my own to your weyr. I swear on the AllFather Oath I shall not influence them in any way, and shall not use my power, directly or indirectly, in order to affect them, the weyrlings, or your weyr of Zandarar.
Goddess of Dreams, are you so lofty as to assume you can judge your peers or the choices of mortals? Do you accuse the Goddess of Light of having reduced the stature of dragons?
What arrogance in your words... in your accusations against one who, until now, has done nothing but try to offer kindness and help to ALL gods. And what arrogance in assuming - ah, this is a common trait among gods, it seems! - that she is the one who forces dragons to behave this way. Have you even stopped to consider not only that dragons might CHOOSE this path - something the Goddess of Light has made clear, time and again - but also that she might have a more intimate understanding of this race than you ever will?
Truly, which of the Pantheon has the authority to complain about another god's actions, when said actions do not affect him at all? If this is the path the Pantheon is taking, how long before one takes exception to the choice of dreams you send to the God of Death's followers, or to the distribution of wealth according to the Goddess of Trade's wishes? Think of this, before you throw stones at innocent gods.
Goddess of Light, in recognition of the honesty of your offer, I shall send some of my own to your weyr. I swear on the AllFather Oath I shall not influence them in any way, and shall not use my power, directly or indirectly, in order to affect them, the weyrlings, or your weyr of Zandarar.
MelirelleO-gon-cho wrote:
What changes to the weyr must be done to accomodate yekith candidates? Or will your cadidates be comprised of other races?
After much thought, I have decided not to send yekith candidates to the weyr. The yekiths are not built to ride dragons, and they feel most at home in Nor Pupae and my lands. I shall, instead, send an envoy from the cities of Hope and Aldastrian, comprised of humans and fiends for the most part. Unless, of course, fiends might make the weyrlings or the inhabitants of the weyr uneasy, in which case I am fairly sure I can find more humans to take their place.
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:::relieved exhalation:::Xar wrote: Melirelle
After much thought, I have decided not to send yekith candidates to the weyr. The yekiths are not built to ride dragons, and they feel most at home in Nor Pupae and my lands.
As you wish, sister.Xar wrote: Melirelle
I shall, instead, send an envoy from the cities of Hope and Aldastrian, comprised of humans and fiends for the most part. Unless, of course, fiends might make the weyrlings or the inhabitants of the weyr uneasy, in which case I am fairly sure I can find more humans to take their place.
Any and all races are welcome to stand the Grounds. Once Impressed, weyrlings are heart-bound to adapt to their beloved. And as Zandarar is fairly new and isolated, exposure to other races would be a welcome experience.As long as everyone commits to and follows the rules of the weyr for the 12 Turns of training...
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Mithyaat Vam
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Xar wrote:Melirelle
Goddess of Dreams, are you so lofty as to assume you can judge your peers or the choices of mortals? Do you accuse the Goddess of Light of having reduced the stature of dragons?
What arrogance in your words... in your accusations against one who, until now, has done nothing but try to offer kindness and help to ALL gods. And what arrogance in assuming - ah, this is a common trait among gods, it seems! - that she is the one who forces dragons to behave this way. Have you even stopped to consider not only that dragons might CHOOSE this path - something the Goddess of Light has made clear, time and again - but also that she might have a more intimate understanding of this race than you ever will?
Truly, which of the Pantheon has the authority to complain about another god's actions, when said actions do not affect him at all? If this is the path the Pantheon is taking, how long before one takes exception to the choice of dreams you send to the God of Death's followers, or to the distribution of wealth according to the Goddess of Trade's wishes? Think of this, before you throw stones at innocent gods.
Goddess of Light, in recognition of the honesty of your offer, I shall send some of my own to your weyr. I swear on the AllFather Oath I shall not influence them in any way, and shall not use my power, directly or indirectly, in order to affect them, the weyrlings, or your weyr of Zandarar.
how sweet and sisterly of you, Melirelle!
yes i've often been told that i'm somewhat of an arrogant, opinionated bully but, there you are. whatever shall i do? Melirelluh has shamed me!! O-gon-cho, you gather such good company around you! Next you will be sending dragons to Nor Yekith for mutation!! Will you breed a Black Dragon or a murder of crows?
good luck in any case. i fear you will need it!!
...and on the last day we feasted, like carrion, on her dreams.
~Irvea - from The Death of Mithyaat Vam
~Irvea - from The Death of Mithyaat Vam
MelirelleMithyaat Vam wrote:how sweet and sisterly of you, Melirelle!
O-gon-cho, you gather such good company around you! Next you will be sending dragons to Nor Yekith for mutation!! Will you breed a Black Dragon or a murder of crows?
good luck in any case. i fear you will need it!!
In the past months, I have tried to show I am not the monster you all believed me to be (again, an assumption on the part of most gods, since I have never acted against anyone, nor have I ever threatened anyone with death, carnage, or mayhem). But it seems strange to me, that my attempts have often been met by scorn and derisiveness, rather than willingness to give the benefit of the doubt. In fact, I believe I have faced far more scorn and mistrust since my attempts began, than ever before. I have faced gods telling me in my face they do not trust me, and that I would have to work to earn their trust, only to find that they believe they do not need to prove anything in return, and can therefore simply sit back and watch me toil. Scorn and humiliation do not become the gods of Eiran, and even mortals know that this is hardly the best way to welcome the efforts of a goddess who attempts to prove herself to others.
Goddess of Dreams, I have done nothing to warrant your scorn, yet scorn is what you give me, instead of apologizing to the Goddess of Light, whom you pretended to castigate for her own choices. You are not so high and mighty above the Gods that you may freely tell all gods about how best to deal with their own followers, but such seems to be your belief. So I give you a honest warning: apologize to the Goddess of Light for your lack of courtesy, and all shall be well. But if you refuse, and if you continue to berate her, or scorn me without reason, your followers shall no longer be welcome in my lands.
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:::getting very quiet:::Mithyaat Vam wrote: O-gon-cho, you gather such good company around you! Next you will be sending dragons to Nor Yekith for mutation!! Will you breed a Black Dragon or a murder of crows?
good luck in any case. i fear you will need it!!
Sister what have I done to warrant this opinion of me from you? Do you wish to discuss this with me privately?-
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It is for each of us to form oppionions of eacher not only on what we see in public, but alos what we see in private.
I for one, know how difficult it can be to pronounce your guilt of wrongly judging a fellow god, and then acting on that judgement. But I also know how a gut feeling can in t he end prove to be correct.
I have made no judgements, yet, for either Merielle or O-gon-cho, but that doesn't mean that I will sway one way or the other very soon. We all will see what comes.
I condem neither Mithyaat vam OR Merielle OR O-gon-cho, and I think that you all should do the same. For now.
I for one, know how difficult it can be to pronounce your guilt of wrongly judging a fellow god, and then acting on that judgement. But I also know how a gut feeling can in t he end prove to be correct.
I have made no judgements, yet, for either Merielle or O-gon-cho, but that doesn't mean that I will sway one way or the other very soon. We all will see what comes.
I condem neither Mithyaat vam OR Merielle OR O-gon-cho, and I think that you all should do the same. For now.
Pantheon,
I would speak about Melirelle. My apologies, Melirelle, for speaking about you in front of you. However, you do extremely little to help us understand you, which is important for the Peace of Eiran. As I am interested in the Peace of Eiran, I want to help others understand the extremely little I know about you.
As I have said, out of the most profound Love I have felt since arriving on Eiran, Melirelle asked Nor Yekith to enhance her; to make her better able to serve him. Nor Yekith made her extraordinarily able to serve him. It seemed unlikely to me that she would then not serve him. By word and deed, he has declared me his enemy, and sworn my destruction. Therefore, I have always been particularly worried about Melirelle.
As I said, Melirelle does not help us understand her. She knew of my feelings. I declared them to her in public, after all. Yet, she made no attempt, publically or privately, to talk me out of what few would say is not a logical conclusion.
Well... I have come to believe Melirelle is not my enemy. I will not get into details, but it would seem she acted to safeguard the birth of Jove's and my daughter, Tamarisk, when I, because of my mistrust of Melirelle, put her into danger. Melirelle's help was confirmed by a third party. (Who is free to speak out, but I won't name you, in case you don't want to be named.)
I believe Melirelle is very anti-social. It's even possible that she actually wants us to have the wrong opinion of her. But I do not believe she is the enemy her origin suggests. And I have stopped acting under that assumption. Perhaps I am a fool. It has been suggested enough times, and not always without cause. Perhaps she has birthed horrors that will destroy Eiran. Perhaps she is using her new domain to undermine the stability of the earth. But I will no longer assume so. I am sick to death of enemies, and will no longer count her among them. She has not declared herself an enemy. (As Astavyastataa Kadna has done.) She has not behaved as an enemy. (As Nor Yekith has done.) I will act on the only fact I know about her: she saved my daughter.
I would speak about Melirelle. My apologies, Melirelle, for speaking about you in front of you. However, you do extremely little to help us understand you, which is important for the Peace of Eiran. As I am interested in the Peace of Eiran, I want to help others understand the extremely little I know about you.
As I have said, out of the most profound Love I have felt since arriving on Eiran, Melirelle asked Nor Yekith to enhance her; to make her better able to serve him. Nor Yekith made her extraordinarily able to serve him. It seemed unlikely to me that she would then not serve him. By word and deed, he has declared me his enemy, and sworn my destruction. Therefore, I have always been particularly worried about Melirelle.
As I said, Melirelle does not help us understand her. She knew of my feelings. I declared them to her in public, after all. Yet, she made no attempt, publically or privately, to talk me out of what few would say is not a logical conclusion.
Well... I have come to believe Melirelle is not my enemy. I will not get into details, but it would seem she acted to safeguard the birth of Jove's and my daughter, Tamarisk, when I, because of my mistrust of Melirelle, put her into danger. Melirelle's help was confirmed by a third party. (Who is free to speak out, but I won't name you, in case you don't want to be named.)
I believe Melirelle is very anti-social. It's even possible that she actually wants us to have the wrong opinion of her. But I do not believe she is the enemy her origin suggests. And I have stopped acting under that assumption. Perhaps I am a fool. It has been suggested enough times, and not always without cause. Perhaps she has birthed horrors that will destroy Eiran. Perhaps she is using her new domain to undermine the stability of the earth. But I will no longer assume so. I am sick to death of enemies, and will no longer count her among them. She has not declared herself an enemy. (As Astavyastataa Kadna has done.) She has not behaved as an enemy. (As Nor Yekith has done.) I will act on the only fact I know about her: she saved my daughter.
I am the self-fulfilling prophecy. Give love, and you WILL receive love. Let your every answer, your every action and reaction, your every desire, be rooted in love.
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O-gon-cho
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Bhakti wrote:I will act on the only fact I know about her: she saved my daughter.
Well said, m'l-rd.If I may as well, Melirelle...
I am too new to have known the G-d of Malice, Mutation, and Disease. I do believe he welcomed me (if you can call it that) upon my hatching, but that is all I know of him. So, I know not of Melirelle as a servant of his.
What I do know of Melirelle is that she reponded with her blessing to my request for it on my mating flights, clutching, and hopefully Hatching. Her blessing, added to the blessing of the G-d of Love, is potent indeed! And for that I am grateful.
Of these other aspects of her, I know not and can not comment. But for me as of now, I have no reason to distrust Melirelle, and actually view her as someone to befriend, if she is willing.