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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:19 am
by Loredoctor
I take it no Factor Analysis will be used on such a small sample?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:25 am
by Menolly
Heh, I know one female in the 40-50 age group who answered...

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:55 pm
by matrixman
aliantha wrote:Hey! I'm not a cynic!

I'm a realist. There's a difference! :biggrin:
Didn't say you were a cynic, aliantha. In fact, you were among the original Watch members who inspired me to join - back when KW could still be called a "family." Now, it's...I don't know what it is.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:16 pm
by Fist and Faith
*shrug* It's still my family. It's changed and changed and changed, even in the short 4.5 years I've been here. But it's remained one of the bigger parts of my life. A large percentage of the best people I've ever known are here, and I've even had the great pleasure of meeting some of them in person. :D

Loremaster wrote:I take it no Factor Analysis will be used on such a small sample?
I have no idea what that is, but I guess the small number rules it out? I'm sure Raen will be here today or tomorrow to answer this one. heh

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:26 pm
by drew
Matrixman wrote:Now, it's...I don't know what it is.
A bigger family.

That's all.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:37 pm
by lucimay
drew wrote:
Matrixman wrote:Now, it's...I don't know what it is.
A bigger family.

That's all.
:biggrin: |G

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:02 am
by Raen
www.pewinternet.org/pdfs/PIP_Communities_Report.pdf


Here is an official study done in 2001. I only have the attention span to read part of it but it is interesting. For those with absolute boredom on their hands :)

I'm too tired to be bored at the moment!

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:06 am
by Fist and Faith
Yikes! That's a long paper! :lol:

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:07 am
by Loredoctor
Fist and Faith wrote:
Loremaster wrote:I take it no Factor Analysis will be used on such a small sample?
I have no idea what that is, but I guess the small number rules it out? I'm sure Raen will be here today or tomorrow to answer this one. heh
Small sample equates to an inflated variance for multiple correlations. It was a factor that plagued my thesis study.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:12 am
by Fist and Faith
Yeah, I understand the part about small samples making for unreliable results. But I never heard of "Factor Analysis." Is it a way to try to make up for small samples?

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:17 am
by Loredoctor
Fist and Faith wrote:Yeah, I understand the part about small samples making for unreliable results. But I never heard of "Factor Analysis." Is it a way to try to make up for small samples?
A factor analysis is a statistical method used to 'tease' apart correlations (patterns) in a matrix of intercorrelations. However, small samples tend to produce spurious, or inflated, results.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:19 am
by Fist and Faith
I don't understand "'tease' apart." An attempt to prove that apparent correlations are not... "real" correlations?

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:21 am
by Loredoctor
Fist and Faith wrote:I don't understand "'tease' apart." An attempt to prove that apparent correlations are not... "real" correlations?
To find connections - co-relating variables. Say, a relationship between muscle strength and body size.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:28 am
by Fist and Faith
So a Factor Analysis looks for correlations? OK, we're having a needless conversation. :lol: I thought you were looking for something else.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:32 am
by Loredoctor
Fist and Faith wrote:So a Factor Analysis looks for correlations? OK, we're having a needless conversation. :lol: I thought you were looking for something else.
It looks for patterns in correlations - factors.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:26 pm
by aliantha
Matrixman wrote: Didn't say you were a cynic, aliantha. In fact, you were among the original Watch members who inspired me to join - back when KW could still be called a "family."
Really? Gawrsh, MM.... :oops: :lol: (And I knew you weren't calling me a cynic. I just saw an opportunity to use one of my favorite one-liners....)
Matrixman wrote: Now, it's...I don't know what it is.
It's a dysfunctional family, of course. And yes, we do put the "fun" in dysfunctional. :lol:

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:00 am
by matrixman
aliantha wrote: It's a dysfunctional family, of course. And yes, we do put the "fun" in dysfunctional. :lol:
That puts things in perspective. Thanks. :)