Kevin's Watch

Emotional Leper wrote:

Cail wrote:There was one spot that really shone for me. Seriously, it was like going back in time 28 years ago..I felt the same wonder that I did when I was initially reading the Chrons.

Then the moment passed, and I was bitterly disappointed again. Truly, I think SRD has given me back something broken, and I really hope he can redeem himself in the final two books.

But gah! The whole premise of the Last Chronicles seems so contrived.

SRD is Lord Foul?!?

I kinda felt like I was being given back something broken too.

Auleliel wrote:

Emotional Leper wrote:

Cail wrote:There was one spot that really shone for me. Seriously, it was like going back in time 28 years ago..I felt the same wonder that I did when I was initially reading the Chrons.

Then the moment passed, and I was bitterly disappointed again. Truly, I think SRD has given me back something broken, and I really hope he can redeem himself in the final two books.

But gah! The whole premise of the Last Chronicles seems so contrived.

SRD is Lord Foul?!?

I kinda felt like I was being given back something broken too.

Well, if we're gonna start getting back things that are broken, I'd like to start getting back the pieces of my broken heart.

Kick-Snare-HiHat.

Thank, thank you. I'll be here all week, crying, in the corner, listening to the Cure, and cutting myself. 'cause there's nothing else to do when you're listening to the Cure.

Egad, you had to bring up The Cure. Guess I should save my comments for Vespers, but...I think the Despiser would've saved himself a lot of trouble if his armies just played the Cure all across the Land. Everyone would've been desperately hurling themselves off Landsdrop to end the torture.

You are crazy. But you are right about the Cure.



-B

I grok the Emo. I spent many time studying them in their natural habitats, eventually becoming accepted by their tribal family unit. I observed their rituals. I'm thinking of writing a book. "Emos in the Mist"

I defy anyone to retain their composure when a misty-eyed emo whines that they cut themselves to let the pain out.

When I stopped laughing, I admonished the poor fool to go back to Hot Topic and buy himself another Nightmare Before Christmas T-shirt.

Perhaps someday I can be persuaded to post a photo of my punk rock days. I pwn emo.

It's ordered....

Cail wrote: Perhaps someday I can be persuaded to post a photo of my punk rock days. I pwn emo.

I'll show you mine if you show me yours.

Emo: "If you act depressed to pick up chicks, all you pick up is depressed chicks."

Punk: "If you act like a punk to pick up chicks, the sex is wild and might involve an ER trip, if you do everything right. No sharp objects within arm's reach of bed."

Emotional Leper wrote:Punk: "If you act like a punk to pick up chicks, the sex is wild and might involve an ER trip, if you do everything right. No sharp objects within arm's reach of bed."

And that's why any guy worth his salt goes through a punk rock phase.

Cail wrote:

Emotional Leper wrote:Punk: "If you act like a punk to pick up chicks, the sex is wild and might involve an ER trip, if you do everything right. No sharp objects within arm's reach of bed."

And that's why any guy worth his salt goes through a punk rock phase.

I'm not quite sure what Punk Rock looks like anymore. Every time I dress up punk, I get called Grunge, and whenever I dress up in clothes from Hot Topic that celebrate 30 years of PUNK, I get called emo.

Then Emotional Leper has to choke a bitch.

I'd be hard pressed to define punk anymore. I know the people I used to hang with were definitely not emo, grunge, or goth. But I'm also pretty sure that if I attempted to recreate that look now (aside from the fact that there's not a whole lot "punk" about being a 39 year old father from the suburbs), I'd probably be called gothic or emo.

Which is pretty silly, because other than my boots and the odd Ramones t-shirt, I rarely wore any black, and I was never ever a nail-painter.

All I Punks I knew in Gainesville except for 1 were over 35. They'd been playing in the same punk band for longer than I'd been alive. It was awesome.

But apparently in Gville, 80's punk got called grunge.

The book hath arrived.

MsMary wrote:The book hath arrived.

Hooray!! Hope you like it!


RE: Punk - I can see it being called Gothic, but Emo? Wow. I'm confused by how music is classified today.

Held out for a Christmas gift from some people who should have gotten the hint, had to pay for it myself today...

I did not run out to buy Fatal Revenant because of the slow start in Runes and that books perspective; Linden Avery.

Linden is the Yoko of of the land..IMHO.

Fatal Revenant. (OMG Spoilers!).

It's still SRD, which means it's still good. . .right? This isn't seven years of fangirliness talking? (I actually *did* come face-to-face with SRD in Madison--then I turned red and couldn't speak). I've read every single book, short story, essay, and poem he's published that's readily available to the public--more than once. His writing, as Gandalf's art with fireworks in the Lord of the Rings, only improves with age: no one should quibble when I say that FR is well-written.

Now that my credibility is established: Donaldson *himself* said that this would be the most challenging thing he'd ever written; he says on an almost weekly basis in the GI that he feels inadequate to the task of writing the 3rd Chrons. (I also read the GI more diligently than I've ever read the Bible--it's a sickness.) Now, I hate Linden about as much as it's possible to hate a fictional character, not because she isn't a brilliant creation, but because she isn't a brilliant *person*: the reason Donaldson's using her perspective so much in the 3rd Chrons is because (from what I glean from the GI) the most important part of the *story* is happening with her.

Ah, blah: to sum up what is becoming a rant: I don't think Donaldson gave us back "something broken". I think the Last Chrons were broken to begin with, and by the end, through TC's intervention, SRD'll fix everything. After all, the Last Chrons is supposed to be unifying, right?

I am exceedingly verbose tonight. I apologize. It probably comes from spending time with relatives who don't even know who Donaldson *is* (hell, some don't even know who *Tolkien* is). Thank the Creator; I'm not alone in the world.

<syl: edited. see the announcement at the top of the forum>

The above is a good post..

The problem with writing a 3rd Covenant chronicles is essentially the end of the 2nd Chrons..

Linden is't a wonderful Character - she is too selfish and makes many terrible decisions.. I admire the healing she can do, but more often than not she's too selfish to be polite. I am not going to join Thoolah though.. I accept her for her weaknesses because I also am full of them..
If you want to read a story with flawless heroes who never die thesde Chronichles aren't going to please you. But we all know that.

The way the story is going is the only way it Can go - even in fantasy worlds we can't easily 'wish' our old heroes to appear.. It takes time and effort and who knows what conequences will occur because of it..

Thanks. It's good to know that my verbose rants are (ocassionally) appreciated.

I love Thomas Covenant despite his many flaws, and usually I can swallow Linden Avery for his sake, and the sake of the Land as we know it. Sometimes, though. . .*shakes head sadly*

Guys, you're in a first and second chronicles forum here. Please keep all discussion of Runes and Fatal Revenant in the appropriate forums so we can avoid spoilers.